> ok sorry guys .. im new here i promise to learn the rules

It's not a rule we made up here.
It's just the rule, and has been for decades.
It used to be the rule *everywhere*, but the internet is now swamped
with people who think the net was invented last week and who are
generally unfamiliar with the rules of etiquette that apply.

As a basic primer, try some of the refs given here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette

And here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting 

The style in this list is generally "interleaved posting" or
"bottom-posting", and "trimming" is actively encouraged. "Top posting"
is usually frowned upon.

You failed on "trimming", by the way, when you replied to my post and
failed to trim away the spurious rubbish that the mail-server here had
appended at the end.
Since you are a programmer, we have to assume that you are very familiar
with using a text editor, so it seems reasonable to expect that you are
able to trim away the dross.


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