Yes, sorry, there was an error in my code. You can map the member as
either a field or a property, but you have to use the appropriate
access mechanism. ReadOnlyPropertyThroughCamelCaseField tells
NHibernate to use the mapped property when getting the value, and to
look for a field with camel case naming and to use that when setting
the value. If the underlying member is an autoproperty, then it will
fail to find a matching field.


On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:17 AM, TheNephalim <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I implemented what Paul suggested, although I had to do it slightly
> differently and I'm not sure why.
>
> public class User {
>
>        private IList<Phone> _phones;
>
>        /// <summary>
>        /// A list of contact phone numbers.
>        /// </summary>
>        public virtual IEnumerable<Phone> Phones {
>            get { return _phones; }
>        }
>
>        public virtual void AddPhone(Phone phone) {
>            Check.Require(phone != null, "Phone cannot be left
> undefined.");
>
>            if (!_phones.Contains(phone)) {
>                _phones.Add(phone);
>            }
>        }
> }
>
> The mapping for the property is:
>
>            HasMany<Phone>(x => x.Phones)
>                .Access.ReadOnlyPropertyThroughCamelCaseField
> (Prefix.Underscore)
>                .Table("Phone")
>                .KeyColumn("UserId")
>                .Cascade.All().Inverse()
>                .AsBag();
>
> If I added the get/set to the private IList<Phone> _phones, I received
> an error indicating that it couldn't find the field "_phones".
> However, now that I'm thinking about it, that might make sense because
> having the get/set would indicate a propert and not a field.  I'm not
> sure if the the Property access strategy would work and I believe that
> you would also have to use the Reveal.Property<Entity>("Property")
> method.  I also think that you would probably have to rename the
> property to something like m_Phones.  I have not have too much luck
> using the Reveal.Property method; sometimes it seems to work and other
> times....not.
>
> I also had to change the List<T> to IList<T>, otherwise to access
> contains I would have to access it through the public IEnumerable
> Phones instead of the private variable.  To add a new value, I would
> need to access the private variable, but would receive an error
> indicating an index out of range exception.  Changing the collection
> from List<T> to IList<T> seems to have remedied that problem.
>
> I'm going to continue testing to make sure that everything is cool.
> It appears, though, that I have reached something that I can
> definitely live with.
>
> Thanks again,
> Robert
>
> On Jan 30, 6:53 pm, Paul Batum <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I'm familiar with what AsReadOnly does - it used to be my preferred
> > approach! Until I realised that compile time errors are preferable to
> > runtime errors :)
> >
> > You could argue that a combination of both techniques is best - that way
> > you're still exposing a readonly interface and preventing the casting
> > problem. But if my developers are casting back to lists instead of using the
> > appropriate methods (AddXXX, RemoveXXX), I've got bigger problems. I try to
> > expose a public interface that makes the wrong things hard and the right
> > things easy - I rarely go further than that. YMMV.
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Hudson Akridge 
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > > You can make the getter an IEnumerable for your property wrapper, but you
> > > can still cast it back to a list and then make modifications to it.
> > > .AsReadOnly() wraps it in a new read only collection that throws 
> > > exceptions
> > > whenever .Add/.Remove or any other collection modification methods are
> > > attempted to be called. Otherwise all you're doing it providing a read 
> > > only
> > > interface, but not actually enforcing it.
> >
> > > Example:
> > > public class Person
> > >     {
> > >         public Person()
> > >         {
> > >             _test = new List<string>();
> > >         }
> > >         private readonly IList<string> _test;
> > >         public IEnumerable<string> Test
> > >         {
> > >             get { return _test; }
> > >         }
> > >     }
> >
> > > //Usage
> > >             var tmp = new Person();
> > >             var tmp2 = tmp.Test as List<string>;
> > >             tmp2.Add("test");
> >
> > > tmp2 will have a count of 1 after this, and "test" will have been added.
> > > This is typically not what you'd want a user of your model to be able to 
> > > do.
> >
> > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Paul Batum <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >> Not sure if I'm following entirely, but my approach to exposing
> > >> collections is to make the getter an IEnumerable:
> >
> > >> public class Foo
> > >> {
> > >>   private List<Bar> _bars { get; set; }
> >
> > >>   public IEnumerable<Bar> Bars
> > >>   {
> > >>     get { return _bars; }
> > >>   }
> > >> }
> >
> > >> Then I map this using an access strategy:
> >
> > >>  public void Override(AutoMapping<Foo> mapping)
> > >>      {
> > >>          mapping.HasMany(x => x.Bars)
> >
> > >> .Access.ReadOnlyPropertyThroughCamelCaseField(Prefix.Underscore)
> > >>      }
> >
> > >> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:20 AM, TheNephalim 
> > >> <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > >>> I'm definitely going to look into the other strategies that you
> > >>> mentioned.
> >
> > >>> One that I found, and seems to work, is the wrapper strategy that you
> > >>> alluded to in item number 4.  I created a private property that is
> > >>> revealed in the mapping and is accessed using the wrapper in a public
> > >>> property.  When I tested two other properties that I had implemented
> > >>> in this fashion, NHibernate determined that the collections were not
> > >>> initialized using the assert that I mentioned in my previous posting
> > >>> and only generated SQL if I directly accessed the collection directly,
> > >>> i.e. User.Phones.Count.
> >
> > >>> Thank you for your response and confirming what I was thinking as well
> > >>> as giving me some other avenues to pursue.
> >
> > >>> -Robert Eberhart
> >
> > >>> On Jan 29, 11:54 am, Hudson Akridge <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>> > You may want to toss your question over to the NHUsers google group,
> > >>> but
> > >>> > I'll give you my feedback for as much as It'll help ;)
> >
> > >>> > is this a trade off wherein we sacrifice encapsulation for performance
> >
> > >>> > This. As far as I'm able to gleen, that is the correct assumption to
> > >>> make.
> > >>> > There are ways around this.
> > >>> > 1.) Don't access the collection unless you absolutely need it
> > >>> > 2.) Look into doing Join Fetch's during your queries when you get the
> > >>> data
> > >>> > back if you know you're going to be using that collection as a result
> > >>> of the
> > >>> > query.
> > >>> > 3.) Look into batch or subselect fetching, this is a good loading
> > >>> strategy
> > >>> > imo
> > >>> > 4.) Look into lazy=extra. This allows you to do counts, contains, and 
> > >>> > a
> > >>> few
> > >>> > other common collection statements without loading the collection. You
> > >>> will
> > >>> > still have to access the backing collection, but you can write a
> > >>> wrapper in
> > >>> > your model. For example:
> > >>> > public virtual int FastCountOfLogins()
> > >>> > {
> > >>> > return _logins.Count();
> >
> > >>> > }
> >
> > >>> > That will keep your collection lazy loaded until you actually need to
> > >>> do
> > >>> > something like a for each and iterate over it.
> > >>> > 5.) Grab nhprofiler. This is one of the single best tools for finding
> > >>> bottle
> > >>> > necks in your application.
> >
> > >>> > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:10 AM, TheNephalim <
> > >>> [email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > >>> > > I have several issues that I'm working on, because I'm a newbie at
> > >>> > > this, and wanted to address the one that I "solved" first.
> >
> > >>> > > The problem was that I was noticing that all of my collections were
> > >>> > > not loading lazily, no matter what I did to mark them as such.  It
> > >>> > > then dawned on me that the problem was the way I was returning the
> > >>> > > collection.
> >
> > >>> > > For example,
> >
> > >>> > >        public virtual IList<Login> Logins {
> > >>> > >            get { return new List<Login>(_logins).AsReadOnly(); }
> > >>> > >            protected set { _logins = value; }
> > >>> > >        }
> >
> > >>> > > I did it this way because if you just return _logins, you're 
> > >>> > > actually
> > >>> > > returning a reference to the private variable which violates
> > >>> > > encapsulation and the whole reason for marking it private in the
> > >>> first
> > >>> > > place.
> >
> > >>> > > The problem is that the parent object, User, is a proxy.  Any time
> > >>> > > that that parent object was accessed, for example, to set
> > >>> > > User.LastName, a query for each of the collections was fired.  The
> > >>> > > solution was to change the property to this:
> >
> > >>> > >        public virtual IList<Login> Logins {
> > >>> > >            get { return _logins; }
> > >>> > >            protected set { _logins = value; }
> > >>> > >        }
> >
> > >>> > > I have run several tests in NUnit and watched the queries coming 
> > >>> > > back
> > >>> > > to know that this is what's happening.  Additionally, I used the
> > >>> > > following:
> >
> > >>> > >        
> > >>> > > Assert.IsFalse(NHibernateUtil.IsInitialized(testUser.Logins));
> >
> > >>> > > It passes for the second property implementation and not the first.
> >
> > >>> > > The question I have is this:  Is there a way to encapsulate the
> > >>> > > private variable but still have a proxy for lazy loading, or is this
> > >>> a
> > >>> > > trade off wherein we sacrifice encapsulation for performance?
> >
> > >>> > > Any help you can offer is appreciated.
> >
> > >>> > > Sincerely,
> > >>> > > Robert Eberhart
> >
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