Hello Mark & Tom

 

>Is this use-case worth to keep absolute generators?

 

A part for experimenting i don't see any use case for "absolute" generators.

 

>Or is there any other way of achieving what Mark is asking for?

 

I'am sorry i dont see an other way.

 

Musically speaking if the goal is to have a very fast release to satisfy an 
"aggressive staccato playing", i think that

that FluidSynth should bring the minimum release to 10 ms (rather then 16 ms). 
A limit below 10 ms doesn't seem to give any difference

and  produces pops and clics ( because the internal resolution is around 1 ms 
(with sample rate at 44100Hz) ).

 

jjc

 

> Message du 11/04/18 15:45
> De : "Mark Raynsford" 

> A : "Tom M." 
> Copie à : fluid-dev@nongnu.org
> Objet : Re: [fluid-dev] Override envelope release time?
> 
> On 2018-04-11T14:50:40 +0200
> "Tom M."  wrote:
> 
> > > I'd like to set the R time to 0 globally so that notes immediately cut
> > > of when their respective note-off event is received. 
> > 
> > The SF2 spec requires a minimum release time of around 16 ms. That's how 
> > "immediate" you can get.
> 
> Is that "if you specify 0 in a soundfont, fluidsynth will translate
> that to a 16ms release" or is that "fluidsynth is not capable of
> producing less than a 16ms release"? I mean, I'm happy to violate the
> spec for my own purposes. :)
> 
> I'm basically trying to get a very aggressive staccato sound, and
> that's sort of difficult to do if instruments insist on tailing off in
> a soft (and arguably realistic) way.
> 
> I can probably tolerate a 16ms release in any case.
> 
> > > Is it possible? 
> > 
> > Well... yes it should be, but in fact it is not.
> > 
> > What you're requesting is a job for fluid_synth_set_gen2() and something 
> > like this should do it:
> > 
> > foreach (c : midichannel)
> > fluid_synth_set_gen2(synth, c, GEN_VOLENVRELEASE, 0, TRUE, TRUE);
> > 
> > This sets the generator responsible for volume release to an absolute value 
> > of 0 for each midi channel. However: This feature never worked as it's 
> > implementation is incomplete. Therefore it was concluded to remove it upon 
> > next major version bump: 
> > https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/fluid-dev/2017-12/msg00004.html
> > 
> > @Marcus + JJC: Is this use-case worth to keep absolute generators? Or is 
> > there any other way of achieving what Mark is asking for?
> 
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