Hi Chris,
I'm forwarding your message on to the fluid-work mailing list in case
others would like to weigh in on your or Nate's questions.
In his email below I believe Clayton was thinking about how a new
component we were working on, User Interface Options (http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/User+Interface+Options
), might be able to work with a framework like OpenID to carry an
individual's preferences about their user interface from one system/
application/website to another. The most recent information on UI
Options was generated at the Fluid All-Hands meeting in Berkeley last
week, where the team did some brainstorming on potential features (http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/All+Hands+Draft+User+Interface+Options+Structure
). These features have also been entered into JIRA (http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1842
), some of which are currently being worked on and others as future
features.
Additionally, as Clatyon said, one of the big things the Fluid Project
provides is a library usable & accessible user interface components,
which are available here: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Components
. You may also find our User Experience Toolkit (http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/UX+Toolkit
), which is a sort of "how-to guide" on several user-centered design
practices, and the Fluid-sponsored Open Source Design Pattern Library (http://osdpl.fluidproject.org
) where anyone can contribute patterns helpful as you are designing
and evaluating your user interface. If you have questions about any of
these resources, I or the other appropriate folks on the fluid-work
mailing list would be more than happy to help you with them.
Cheers,
Allison
On Nov 26, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Chris Messina wrote:
I'm certainly open to that. Looking forward to hearing from the
Fluid folks!
Chris
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Nate Angell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'll let Clayton speak up too, but given my tangential relationship
with Fluid, I would think it would be ideal if the OpenID folks
could sit down with a few of the Fluid folks to discuss both how
OpenID might best address accessibility issues AND how OpenID might
be able to support user-centric accessibility preferences (for lack
of a better phrase).
As luck would have it, a few of the Fluid folk are near at least
some of the OpenID folk as they are at Berkeley. I'm copying them on
this message to see what they say.
On Nov 26, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Chris Messina wrote:
Thanks for the context Nate.
On the one hand, we need usability help and best practices for
OpenID generally (hence this list). We have a lot of existing
behavior in the wild to look at, and we have a small group of
people after a UX Summit that we held in charge of coming up with
some recommendations for OPs and RPs.
If the Fluid Project could suggest how we might engage with them on
evaluating the existing approaches, and then move into making
subsequent recommendations on the signin process that would be
excellent.
If we could then extend that work to cover SREG and the exchange of
profile data from an OP to an RP, and what that experience should
ideally look like, then that would be a great secondary task for
the Fluid group to assist with.
Where do we begin?
Chris
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Nate Angell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Clayton, glad you posted to the list...I'm a member of the Sakai
community and had put it to the fluid folks that they might find
value in joining the OpenID community.
For the OpenID folks, please take Clayton's offer of accessibility
help seriously...the Fluid folks are some of the best experts
you'll find.
--
Nate Angell
Director of Special Projects
rSmart
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http://xolotl.org/
On Nov 25, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Clayton H Lewis wrote:
new to this list... a colleague pointed out to me a couple of
earlier posts on this
I'm a participant in the Fluid project (www.fluidproject.org),
aimed at providing pluggable UI components with good usability and
accessibility baked in
as part of this we have a big interest in making it possible for
people to associate information presentation preferences with
their id so that they don't have to keep respecifying this info,
specifying it in different ways for different sites, etc... this
is a pretty big deal for a good many users; browsers can do some
of it, but not all, plus one isn't always using one's "own" browser
this is a long term strategic interest, with a good deal of
history, eg an ISO standard for specifying the preferences, but we
haven't yet found a good way to tie the info into a widely used id
framework
any suggestions about approaches to this via openID would be very
welcome
there are a number of accessibility folks working on Fluid, so if
there are particular accessibility questions coming from openID we
may be able to help, for example by saying something about screen
reader views of things
Clayton Lewis
Professor of Computer Science
Scientist in Residence, Coleman Institute for Cognitive Disabilities
University of Colorado
http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~clayton
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