Just thought of another thing.

The target version, which i believe we will use for our fix for version, should 
also be multi-selectable. This is for the case where we fix an issue in a 
maintenance release. For example we will have an issue that we are fixing in 
1.1.3, 1.2.1 and 1.3

- Justin
On 2010-08-25, at 1:03 PM, Justin Obara wrote:

> I've played with Redmine a bit more, and have a few more comments.
> 
> Areas we need to address, some of these may have been mentioned before.
> 
> Can't see commits to a specific issue from the issue itself
> This could be due to the fact that the issue numbers no longer match
> No "Affects Version" option
> Needs to be multi-selectable
> Needs to contain all version numbers
> Can't change the default order of the fields displayed when viewing a list of 
> issues.
> You can select which fields to show, but not the order they appear
> We need a way to preserve all of our old Issue Numbers from Jira
> This is to preserve references from our mail archives and other places
> Should each project have their own numbering, rather than have them all 
> increment together? 
> Can't create filters based on description or comments
> We use this in jira to "tag" issues for bug parade and other speciality 
> filters
> Categories aren't multi-selectable. Can only assign a single category to an 
> Issue. Some of the issues are cross cutting
> 
> I've also found a few plugins that might be useful, but I'm not sure how good 
> they are.
> 
> Code Review
> http://www.redmine.org/boards/3/topics/9627
> 
> Drafts
> http://www.redmine.org/boards/3/topics/13930
> 
> Screenshot Paste
> http://www.redmine.org/wiki/redmine/PluginScreenshotPaste
> 
> Thanks
> Justin
> 
> On 2010-08-23, at 10:14 AM, Jamon Camisso wrote:
> 
>> Hi Justin,
>> 
>> Interesting that the custom field option applies to all projects. What
>> about making a list of versions prefixed with the project identifier
>> e.g. [engage] 0.3. This seems inelegant, but if moving to Redmine is a
>> viable option given some work, I'll write the plugin myself :)
>> 
>> Jamon
>> 
>> On 08/23/2010 10:04 AM, Justin Obara wrote:
>>> Hi Jamon, 
>>> 
>>> So it seems that it doesn't have a means for specifying the affects 
>>> versions. I did some googling and found that this is a feature that a bunch 
>>> of people seem to want. Here's a link to a feature request filed for it.
>>> 
>>> http://www.redmine.org/issues/1675
>>> 
>>> Hopefully this will be implemented soon, although the request was made over 
>>> 2 years ago.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Justin
>>> 
>>> On 2010-08-23, at 9:50 AM, Jamon Camisso wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Justin,
>>>> 
>>>> You're correct that version numbers are in the admin section for a
>>>> project, I've added 0.3 and 0.4 for Engage. If you login (details
>>>> forthcoming) and take a look at
>>>> <http://redmine.fluidproject.org/issues/592> you'll be able to update
>>>> the issue and assign a version number to it. I'm not sure if reimporting
>>>> would pick up on the numbers now or not.
>>>> 
>>>> Jamon
>>>> 
>>>> On 08/23/2010 09:28 AM, Justin Obara wrote:
>>>>> Hi Jamon,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Another thing that seems to be missing, but could just be due to the 
>>>>> import, is the version numbers. In Jira we are able to specify the 
>>>>> affects versions (what versions does a particular bug affect) and the fix 
>>>>> for version (when will/was a bug fixed). There seems to be a field for 
>>>>> target version. I would assume this is akin to Jira's fix for version; 
>>>>> however, none of the issues seem to have this populated. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> As Antranig mentioned there may be more features that are locked away in 
>>>>> an admin section. I don't remember if you've setup an admin account for 
>>>>> me or not, but could you help me get access to the admin section. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Justin
>>>>> On 2010-08-20, at 1:38 PM, Jamon Camisso wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Antranig,
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 08/19/2010 11:24 PM, Antranig Basman wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi there Jamon - thanks a lot for this experiment. I have to say at the
>>>>>>>> outset I am quite pleased with Redmine... the rendering is a bit
>>>>>>>> simplistic, but at the very least it is VERY QUICK. I could never
>>>>>>>> understand why after so many years Atlassian showed such desultory
>>>>>>>> interest in improving their really pretty incompetently slow load 
>>>>>>>> times.
>>>>>>>> Pages on Redmine load pretty much instantly whereas even on a pretty
>>>>>>>> fast connection I could wait 3-4 seconds before seeing any rendering on
>>>>>>>> even a simple JIRA or Confluence page.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jira 4 was a major regression in that respect, I attempted to optimize
>>>>> Postgresql for Jira as well, but it made little difference. I'm
>>>>> cautiously optimistic that performance with Redmine which uses Ruby on
>>>>> Rails will remain better.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That said, I see a few important things missing that will make life a
>>>>>>>> bit difficult - for example although redmins supports the concept of a
>>>>>>>> "category" which I guess is the JIRA equivalent of a "component", it
>>>>>>>> doesn't allow you to easily navigate to a set of issues that relate to
>>>>>>>> that component. Also the JIRA feature of being able to prefix an issue
>>>>>>>> with a "project code" such as FLUID, ENGAGE, or KETTLE was crucially
>>>>>>>> useful to be able to keep issues referred to unambiguously when working
>>>>>>>> on several projects. For example right now for me it is very important
>>>>>>>> to be able to distinguish between CSPACE and FLUID issues.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've edited the issue view and added [<%= @project.identifier %>] which
>>>>> will output something like [deca] Bug #123. The number isn't tied to the
>>>>> Tracker (bug) or the identifier (deca), but at least the information is
>>>>> present as to what belongs where now.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The rendering of diffs and direct views into the repository are a very
>>>>>>>> nice and welcome feature -
>>>>>>>> http://redmine.fluidproject.org/projects/fluid/repository/revisions/9992/diff/trunk/src/webapp/components/pager/js/Pager.js
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> this aspect reminds me of "trac" but redmine feels a bit better put
>>>>>>>> together than trac - although I will reserve judgement until I can try
>>>>>>>> out the wiki :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Redmine will also work with Git, Mercurial, Bazaar, Darcs, CVS given the
>>>>> correct URIs and credentials.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The "activity" view is great. A joint stream of SVN and JIRA events is 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> really helpful resource.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As with other systems, linking to a specific revision or file is
>>>>> possible using a few keyword/symbol operators. Consider:
>>>>> 
>>>>> fluid-engage-kettle/trunk/src/main/webapp/services/kettleDemo/html/kettle.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> To view it in the repository viewer, there are multiple options:
>>>>> First is to use source:@8582 which will browse to the root of the SVN
>>>>> repository for revision 8582.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Another option is to specify a file like:
>>>>> source:trunk/src/main/webapp/services/kettleDemo/html/kettle.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Combining the two, to view a specific line number of a specific revision
>>>>> of a file one would use:
>>>>> source:trunk/src/main/webapp/services/kettleDemo/html/kettle.h...@8582#l29
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sadly the handling of URLs for search views is no more competent than 
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> JIRA. For example in trying to create a view of "Framework" issues,
>>>>>>>> after I apply the necessary filter, I get to yet another unbookmarkable
>>>>>>>> view of the form
>>>>>>>> http://redmine.fluidproject.org/projects/fluid/issues?set_filter=1&tracker_id=1
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You'd think that developers would start learning how the web was meant
>>>>>>>> to work after a mere 20 years.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is a feature complete REST API - I can envision using IRC to
>>>>> update/retrieve issues on the site.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It's possible that some of these issues could be resolved by some
>>>>>>>> configuration - or it might be, that, like JIRA, quite a few features
>>>>>>>> are mysteriously "invisible" until you get an account and log on. It
>>>>>>>> looks like my account is already imported, so if you could send me the
>>>>>>>> details I'd be interested in trying it out further. Also I'd like to 
>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>> out the wiki features but only get 404s so far when I try to navigate 
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> - I'm much more dissatisfied with Confluence than I am with JIRA. I'm
>>>>>>>> excited that the Redmine developers are open to accessibility work - 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> perhaps they would be more responsive to general feature requests too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Those 404 errors are because there is no content at the moment.
>>>>> Migrating from Confluence to Redmine is an option, but it would take
>>>>> everyone pitching in and copying a few pages over to share the work. I
>>>>> would be elated to move off maintaining Confluence in terms of
>>>>> maintaining sites. Redmine code lives in Git and SVN, and upgrades
>>>>> between versions are as simple as a git checkout in place.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Overall I am impressed - I'm not sure I'm confident trusting all of our
>>>>>>>> issue tracking to it immediately. I guess the only real "blocker" in my
>>>>>>>> view is the lack of project prefixes on issue numbers. That seems to be
>>>>>>>> a "must have" JIRA feature. Hopefully one can't patent something so
>>>>>>>> trivial :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Glad you like it so far. I've put those prefixes into the template and
>>>>> set you up as an administrator so you can have full access. I agree that
>>>>> it will take some time and more testing to get a feel for Redmine, and
>>>>> that switching systems is not something to take lightly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards, Jamon
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