Michelled implemented the fix she outlined below and sent a pull request (  
https://github.com/fluid-project/infusion/pull/185 ), which I have merged into 
the project repo at 1a4334608388675a792abf76175f429b230049ba

Thanks
Justin

On 2011-10-07, at 10:35 AM, Michelle D'Souza wrote:

> I'm leaning towards argument 2 - we are very late in the dev cycle to change 
> this decision. 
> 
> Let's leave fl-focus as is and add documentation that tells implementors to 
> use the fl-focus class along side the theme. Finally we can add fl-focus to 
> the demos to fix the current blocker. 
> 
> Michelle
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Michelle D'Souza
> Senior Inclusive Developer
> Inclusive Design Research Centre, OCAD University
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2011-10-07, at 9:46 AM, Justin Obara wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for looking into this and sending this out. I think I'm leaning 
>> towards agreeing with you. I was talking to Michelle yesterday about how we 
>> don't have a clear definition of what our themes are expected to be doing 
>> and providing our users.
>> 
>> I had tried to keep the information on FLUID-3880 up-to-date with our skype 
>> calls and etc., but on reading it back yesterday there did seem to be some 
>> missing details. Sorry about that. Also, I wasn't in on the original 
>> meetings with uPortal, but perhaps others who were there would have some 
>> notes they could share. 
>> 
>> At any rate, I think we have two arguments to weigh. 
>> 
>> 1) The fl-focus scoping is new to this release. If we are uncertain of it's 
>> effectiveness should we back it out of the themes for now, before we lock it 
>> into a release?
>> 2) There seemed to be, albeit unclearly, a decision made months ago and we 
>> are beyond the point, in this release, to revert those decisions.
>> 
>> I'm interested in what others view points on this are, or if there are 
>> additions and/or clarifications to the two arguments above.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Justin
>> 
>> On 2011-10-07, at 2:03 AM, Antranig Basman wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks - I was asked to looking into the FSS focus styling issue that 
>>> exercised us in the channel yesterday, but the more I look into it, the 
>>> less clear the reasons behind the issue seem.
>>> As a revision, the day's logs are here:
>>> 
>>> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/fluid-work+IRC+Logs-2011-10-06
>>> 
>>> Justin_o reopened FLUID-4504 yesterday in response to finding a focus 
>>> failure in the UIO demo -
>>> 
>>> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4504
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately this seems like a straight reversal of the reasoning which 
>>> led to FLUID-3880
>>> 
>>> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-3880
>>> 
>>> The reasoning isn't recorded in great detail there, other than "uPortal's 
>>> preference: let the browser handle focus styling." but we should try to 
>>> uncover the reasons behind this earlier decision in more detail, contacting 
>>> Gary for information if necessary. It seems that there is some vagueness 
>>> about the purpose that our FSS themes actually meet - which may reflect a 
>>> transition in the way we are thinking about them, but this point in the 
>>> release cycle doesn't seem the right point to effect such a major change in 
>>> policy as removing the focus scoping rule which we had previously committed 
>>> to, apparently specifically in response to a request by one of our major 
>>> users. My vote is for carrying on with our previous policy (this change 
>>> really amounts to an "API change" and possibly something even deeper) and 
>>> reassess the meaning and content of the FSS themes over the next release 
>>> cycle.
>>> 
>>> For example -
>>> 
>>> i) it may be that uPortal is not interested in our specific delivered 
>>> themes, but only in our reset file and general rules for making themes 
>>> (true or false?)
>>> ii) it may be that our themes are not intended for the purpose of visual 
>>> styling in the sense of "aesthetic preferences" but actually for the 
>>> purpose of reflecting more functional preferences by users affecting 
>>> usability (true or false? or do we actually declare this question 
>>> meaningless?)
>>> iii) the crucial issues (to me) of a) who gets to write themes - b) what 
>>> work is required in writing a theme, and c) who can the author of a theme 
>>> tell about it, and how
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