Hey all, just wondering if anyone got resolution to this.  The thread
at Apple support is still open.  I haven't been able to use Fluid for
over a month now. Nor has anyone in my office.  Pretty frustrating.

It's also strange that not everyone in this group has the problem...
Have people not updated to 3.2.1?


On Jan 3, 4:45 pm, JonBischke <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm seeing exactly the same behavior as Ben (particularly this "And
> then other times Gmail.app just displays
> "Bad Request Error 400").  I did all the stuff in the Apple thread
> (repair permissions, reinstall Safari, etc.) and nothing seems to
> help.  GMail is the app that's most affected for me.  I did try
> Facebook on Safari last night (usually use Firefox) and had problems
> with it as well.  My other FluidApps (Campfire, RTM, etc.) seem to
> work OK.
>
> Really interested to get a solution to this one! :)
>
> -J
>
> On Jan 3, 9:18 am, Benjamin Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > That seems to have been a premature post.  Still broken :(
>
> > On Jan 3, 11:00 am, Benjamin Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > This seems to have fixed the problem for me:
> > > rm ~/Library/Cookies/Cookies.plist
>
> > > On Jan 2, 8:00 am, Benjamin Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=8680137#8680137
>
> > > > On Dec 31 2008, 8:02 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > > > i've done some testing on a machine running OS X 10.5.5 with Safari
> > > > > 3.2.1 (the exact same build of safari i have tested on 10.5.6 which i
> > > > > believe is the very latest public release of safari).
>
> > > > > I *cannot* reproduce the strange behavior on 10.5.5 using either
> > > > > Shiira or a Fluid 0.9.5 SSB.
>
> > > > > If I had to guess, I would say this is a new problem in CFNetwork
> > > > > (which webkit uses for http networking/cookies) shipping with 10.5.6.
> > > > > AFAICT, the issue is not present in 10.5.5. However, I do not have
> > > > > conclusive evidence of that. (one should always keep in mind that most
> > > > > systems have many extensions and applications installed, and should
> > > > > never be too quick to point fingers... different apps/plugins/
> > > > > extensions can interact in surprising ways).
>
> > > > > now I'm going to work on a bug report for apple including all this
> > > > > info. i kinda doubt this will be news to them tho.
>
> > > > > td
>
> > > > > On Dec 31, 11:54 am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > > > > thanks for the details ben. i rarely use safari, so other than the
> > > > > > notes from you guys here, I cant tell when this began, but it sounds
> > > > > > like its prolly a 10.5.6/3.2.1 issue.
>
> > > > > > i'm working on a bug for apple (i like to be thorough).
>
> > > > > > td
>
> > > > > > On Dec 30, 9:03 pm, Benjamin Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Yes, it started happening to me as soon as I upgraded to 10.5.6.  
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > also upgraded to Safari 3.2.1 (5525.27.1) in the same system 
> > > > > > > update,
> > > > > > > so I can't confirm if it's one or the other.
>
> > > > > > > Just some more notes, in case it's helpful:
>
> > > > > > > I do get the logout problem in Facebook, but I'm also getting 
> > > > > > > strange
> > > > > > > Gmail functionality.  After some period of time, it appears to 
> > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > I'm offline (I get a Google's javascript "not connected, retrying 
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > 60 seconds" message).  And then other times Gmail.app just 
> > > > > > > displays
> > > > > > > "Bad Request Error 400".  I need to restart the app (reload or new
> > > > > > > window doesn't help).  This started happening right after my 
> > > > > > > update,
> > > > > > > so I can only conclude it's just a different manifestation of the 
> > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > problem.
>
> > > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > > > --Ben
>
> > > > > > > On Dec 30, 11:03 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Update folks:
>
> > > > > > > > I have been able to reproduce this same behavior using other 
> > > > > > > > webkit-
> > > > > > > > based applications on two separate macs. Specifically 
> > > > > > > > NetNewsWire and
> > > > > > > > Shiira. Both NNW and Shiira use the WebKit located on your 
> > > > > > > > system.
> > > > > > > > just like Fluid. I *cannot* reproduce this in OmniWeb which 
> > > > > > > > ships with
> > > > > > > > its *own*, private (presumably custom) WebKit framework.
>
> > > > > > > > In other words, this behavior is *not* specific to Fluid SSBs, 
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > rather seems to be affecting any WebKit-based application that 
> > > > > > > > uses
> > > > > > > > the WebKit framework already located on your system.
>
> > > > > > > > As soon as you perform some network activity in one of these 
> > > > > > > > apps, it
> > > > > > > > seems to clobber cookie changes you've made in safari. (note 
> > > > > > > > launching
> > > > > > > > the app is not enough. you have to do something that performs a
> > > > > > > > network request... looks like ajax or traditional http requests 
> > > > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > do the trick). I even used HTTPScoop.app to confirm this. It 
> > > > > > > > happens
> > > > > > > > immediately after a silent/background ajax request.
>
> > > > > > > > So if this is a bug (and it seems like it probably is), its 
> > > > > > > > looking
> > > > > > > > like a bug in WebKit. I'm not sure if this behavior is new to 
> > > > > > > > 10.5.6,
> > > > > > > > or some specific version of WebKit, but I dont recall seeing or
> > > > > > > > hearing about this before... plz correct me on that if i'm 
> > > > > > > > wrong.
>
> > > > > > > > td
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