Thanks Patrick.

To be clear(er) I was definitely not suggesting a binary only release. Just
that it seems like we could reduce the barrier to initial testing and
feedback if we released a non-production ready version of the NG branch;
that's really what I was after.

It sounds like the right thing to do is simply create a release of NG and
be clear to users that it's an early release for testing.

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Patrick Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Eric Sammer <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Mentors, is there any other ASF connotation to calling something a new
> > major version? I want to make sure I understand what I'm talking
> > about. ;)
>
> See this, anything else you do is up to you.
> http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what
>
> but to be overly clear the following statement is in error:
>
> > "The goal would be to create a downloadable artifact for people to test
> and play with without needing to build the project from source"
>
> That is not your goal wrt Apache. Your goal is:
>
> "The Apache Software Foundation produces open source software. All
> releases are in the form of the source materials needed to make
> changes to the software being released."
> also
> "Under no circumstances are unapproved builds a substitute for
> releases. If this policy seems inconvenient, then release more often.
> Proper release management is a key aspect of Apache software
> development."
>
> If you want to also provide a convenience artifact (ie binary(s))
> along with the source release artifact that's fine, but that's not
> what you are "releasing".
>
> We face the same issue in ZK. We resolve it by releasing new official
> versions and just messaging what's stable vs beta vs alpha etc...
> That's what you have a web site for. Blogs, etc... We did the same
> thing in Whirr.
>
> Start creating & publishing releases often, that's the only way to get
> things into user's hands.
>
> Patrick
>



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