Please take me off the list until August! This takes me 1/2 hour to download and I cannot select not to open it in this program. PLEASE< PLEASE<PLEASE!!!!! >===== Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===== >FLUXLIST-digest Wednesday, June 14 2000 Volume 01 : Number 337 > > > >In this issue: >============== > > Re: FLUXLIST: BOX > Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus, luxus, box... > Re: FLUXLIST: a soft suggestion > Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus, luxus, box... > FLUXLIST: Fwd: Cyber Art Bank in Korea.... > FLUXLIST: Six sides, six numbers > Re: FLUXLIST: Six sides, six numbers > Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus, luxus, box... > FLUXLIST: Waiting For Waiting For Godot > Re: FLUXLIST: Waiting For Waiting For Godot > Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus, luxus, box... > Re: FLUXLIST: Trading art.... > Re: FLUXLIST: the fluxsilence/fluxmonster > Re: FLUXLIST: the fluxsilence/fluxmonster > [none] > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:38:01 -0400 >From: Kathy Forer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: BOX > >At 7:56 PM +0200 6/8/00, alan bowman wrote: >>Did I get the biggest elephant? >>12.8 cm X 8.2 cm X 2cm > >That's the mammoth. ..)) > >>Kathy is it ok to drop it in water or will it dissolve like syd barrets >>effervescing elephant? >>_______________________________________________________________ > >Do you have a picture? > >They probably won't dissolve, but they do break really well. If you >put one on a mantelpiece, you can just swipe your arm across the top >and down the elephant will crash, to be lost with the lions and >others. But if you save the pieces I'll glue them together. Unless >you do a really good job and they're dust. it's all in the motion; >like carving stone, they have to ping just right. > >The elephants are kiln fired and can stand water for a good long >while, though as they're only bisque, not vitreous, they may not >survive under seawater without olive oil. > >I looked up syd barret, there's survey about him/his music. I just >don't know much about either, though recall neighbors breaking >up/making up to Pink Floyd one winter, all winter, at the top of the >volume control. But though I don't have their records, I'll be happy >to listen to them courtesy the Internet, when otherwise I probably >would not at all. > >I propose that instead of further considering this "Forer elephant*" >survey that <http://www.pink-floyd.org/barrett/vote/vote.html> be >substituted. I can't see how a survey like this can be taken as >anything but a parody, yet feel that you, Alan, surrounded by >children as you were, didn't mean it that way. Though i went so far >as to photograph the elephants wholesale, en masse and individually, >in B&W Tri-X pushed 1/2 or a full stop, I quite forget which, so the >film sits undeveloped. I never thought to measure or weigh them; had >I done that I might have obviated the need to wrap and mail them! > >It's difficult enough when I continue to make things which remain >essentially tchotchkes even when they're considerably larger in size. >"The quest for immateriality of substance is often mistaken for >anti-sensualism and thus disregarded." > >And I'll happily continue to drift quietly into the elephantine and >hairy ozone. Kathy > >>Freeformfreakoutorganisation FluxlistboxelephantbyK.Forer Survey >> >>Name >>_______________________________________________________________ >> >>Address (approximate) >>_______________________________________________________________ >> >>Dimensions of elephant >>(L:, B + H at furthest points in cm) >>_______________________________________________________________ >> >>Capacity in ml (if appropriate) >> >>Weight in g. >> >>_______________________________________________________________ >> >>best wishes >> >>happy al >> >>Could be the new F.F.F.O publication if there's enough responses > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:38:09 -0400 >From: Kathy Forer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus, luxus, box... > >>And what is fluxish with them, most fluxish piece > >I return still to the fluxbox home page ><http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST/box1/fbindexm.html>. It's really well >done in every way. More rare spices from the east for Owen and Sol. >What a lot of work to do, but all well worth it. I've moved the box >to my computer table, next to the rocks. > >Bernice Kew's Flash animation is extraordinary! worth going back to, >freshly new each time. > >Is there such a thing as the fluxus smile? I can't find Don Boyd's in >the fluxbox, --is it in there?-- but it's related to Bernice's aztec >FLUX. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:39:11 -0400 >From: Kathy Forer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: a soft suggestion > >At 12:38 AM -0400 6/14/00, ddyment wrote: >>not trying to be an asshole, honestly. > >You missed it, I just posted two more! >gsys > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:17:01 -0700 >From: Patricia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus, luxus, box... > >Kathy: > >I believe Don Boyd's is the wonderful, small clay fluxus smile - he sent >one to me to scan for a stamp. > >BTW, write on, please. You're very good at it, very eloquent at your >spontaneity , and I'm enjoying reading you catch up from your soujourn >away, whilst I go back and forth at stuff that ain't play. > >Best, >Patricia > > > > >Kathy Forer wrote: > >> >And what is fluxish with them, most fluxish piece >> >> I return still to the fluxbox home page >> <http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST/box1/fbindexm.html>. It's really well >> done in every way. More rare spices from the east for Owen and Sol. >> What a lot of work to do, but all well worth it. I've moved the box >> to my computer table, next to the rocks. >> >> Bernice Kew's Flash animation is extraordinary! worth going back to, >> freshly new each time. >> >> Is there such a thing as the fluxus smile? I can't find Don Boyd's in >> the fluxbox, --is it in there?-- but it's related to Bernice's aztec >> FLUX. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 01:51:44 -0400 >From: allen bukoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Cyber Art Bank in Korea.... > >in the email recently.... > >>From: "mthong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Cyber Art Bank in Korea.... >>Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 13:11:01 KST >> >>In South Korea,Cyber Art Bank brings you the pleasure and satisfaction of >>having, in your home, copies of the most beautiful paintings of the Great >>Masters of the world. >> >>In South Korea,Cyber Art Bank has15 years experience more in fine art >>reproduction on canvas, hand-maded retouch. 1200 subjects immediately >>available 1-300 copies either with or without ready-made frame. No minimum >>order, catalogue on request. >> >>Size of the Canvas , Price >> >>(80 X 140cm = 90.48 US $) >>(60 X 100cm = 57.14 US $) >>(50 X 70 cm = 33.33 US $) >>(40 X 50 cm = 23.80 US $) >>(30 X 40 cm = 19.05 US $) >>(18 X 24 cm = 9.52 US $) >> >>Welcome OME order. >>On consfruction on Homepage. >> >>Tel: 82. 02. 538. 2862 >>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tae Hong ,Min) >>Homepage: www.cyberartbank.co.kr >> >>Coming Soon our English Version.! >>================================================== >>No. 1 ��,r AI�I3Y, Daum >>���y _�'A 1��� E-mail A��O ��,_AI3Y >>A��,AI ���U �E���-���� Daum FIREBALL >>http://www.daum.net > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:55:06 +0200 >From: Ken Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: FLUXLIST: Six sides, six numbers > >Dear Alan, > >The die should have had six numbers, >one for each side. > >If there was only one number, well ... >I'm tempted to say that >your die was "unfixed." > >Ken > >- -- > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:24:52 -0700 >From: Patricia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Six sides, six numbers > >I just can't help but say... > >your die was unsixed. > >PK > >Ken Friedman wrote: > >> Dear Alan, >> >> The die should have had six numbers, >> one for each side. >> >> If there was only one number, well ... >> I'm tempted to say that >> your die was "unfixed." >> >> Ken >> >> -- > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:32:53 -0400 >From: Kathy Forer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus, luxus, box... > >Well, thanks Patricia. That helps me get through the next slog. > >Though I'm cowed, sheepish and reluctant to say anything at all now, >I'll plunge ahead recklessly if only because thank goodness that is >an option. I know I'm not a flux artist, but I'm fairy sincere; and >even if it comes off lacking in individuality at times, or chatty at >others, my transient points of view, as well as all others' here are >worth while for the most part. > >Oh that my alter ego were on line and ready to go on ebay! like Zoe, >then I'd really know how to answer. >Or apparently my soft friend: The Confession of a Godless Renegade > http://www.interlog.com/~halpen/reviews/confession-of-a-godless-renegade-02- 17-97.html > >At the risk of making enemies, I venture to say that as you, Dave, >may have certain people whose posts you never both with, why don't >you just add me to that list. Personally, I've always appreciated and >enjoyed ddyment's posts, but find his repetitive passive/aggressive >self-abasement/put downs a bit irksome. > >Now is that a flame or a flame put out? If fighting fire with fire is >useless, I mean to more throw water on it. Though I could just while >away back in hiding and let the cool air snuff it out. The godless >confessions are just too hot to pass up though, heck I just make >elephants, and necessitates my risking maximum overexposure. Go tell >Rod, Patricia, Sol, Terrence, Allen, Ann, Best Poet, Carol, Reed, >Roger, Heiko, Myke, narvis & ...pez, what you told me. Obviously it's >not the square inch quantity that bothers you. Perhaps it's because >Steve Allen DID do a biography of me, years ago, long ago and far >away, and besides the wrench is dead, or gone. > >The computer box photos would also be unearthings of who we are, >showing what we do with this particular continuum. > >Kathy >That's it for a few days, bye... > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:44:10 +0100 >From: "Roger Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: FLUXLIST: Waiting For Waiting For Godot > >I ordered Waiting For Godot from the library >and it still hasn't arrived. > >Hey, Fluxlist is back to normal. > >Ain't it great? > >Roger > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 05:02:58 -0500 (CDT) >From: David Baptiste Chirot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Waiting For Waiting For Godot > > Hey Roger: > > that's great! best of all--if it never came! > > "Standing on a street corner waiting for no one /is Power" > > --Gregory Corso > > > > > >On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Roger Stevens wrote: > >> I ordered Waiting For Godot from the library >> and it still hasn't arrived. >> >> Hey, Fluxlist is back to normal. >> >> Ain't it great? >> >> Roger >> >> >> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:44:13 +0200 (CEST) >From: Heiko Recktenwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus, luxus, box... > >> That's it for a few days, bye... > >Come on ;-) > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:37:55 +0200 (CEST) >From: Heiko Recktenwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Trading art.... > >Ann wrote: >> no it's not a popular game here--I made it up. I think. It could havebeen >> ,however, impressed into my malleable brain by some large experiential >> thumb. Could've happened. > >Thanks ;-) > >I wasnt shure in the beginning, if it was just my phantasy, which saw an >elefant in Kathys piece, or if it was as it could have been, same technic >as yours. Anyway, the effect is great, the light, chapeau ;-) > >This elefant and the "Ray Johnson has been lifted" are out of the box >now, your beautifully japanese like wrapped two pices are with the other >things, the jade piece etc, the box is a box... > >The transparent box, thanks Owen, who must have spent a fortune on stamps >!! > >H. > >> > I like this Forer >elephant, allreadya mentioned. > > >> > Same technic like Anns hazard game..is this a popular game in the US ? >> > Putting things into clay ? Or was it Anns or Karens invention ? > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 08:30:10 -0700 >From: ann klefstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: the fluxsilence/fluxmonster > >Says Kathy, > >> Missed you all, wasabi and syrup. > >Now there's an idea! Wasabi syrup! I guess it would be called "wasabi >sauce". A sign of deep cultural conservatism, attachment to the details >of the existent, that no one in Japan ever turned the rahter solid, >crumbly green stuff into hotsauce. Although some brilliant type did >apply it to green peas and make them crunchy. If you are ever bored >("ever to say you're bored," said John Berryman's mother, "means you >have no inner resources." Poor John.) do buy them (Kasugai Roasted Hot >Green Peas, saying at top of package "A Happy Present From [series of >Japanese glyphs]) and you will cease to be bored immediately. The most >stange juxtaposition of flavors, which makes you begin to notice other >strange juxtapositions. The immanence of the wonderful becoming imminent >and then present, right inside your own head. > >Proximity of mouth, nose, and brain. This must be meaningful. > >Have there been any fluxus artists who have experimented with the effect >on perception/cognition of flavors and smells? > >(crunch crunch) > >AK > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:06:14 -0700 >From: Patricia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: the fluxsilence/fluxmonster > >> > >I've got the Trader Joe's Wasabi Peas, not particularly stimulating in the >packaging department, but quite sonic in taste. > >For a real "shithellfirewaterpissletumbuckwhoopee" start in the morning try >the wasabi peas with coffee. Not too poetic, that, but a saying left over >from the teenage years and I still like to voice it from time to time, >really fast. In fact, I think reciting it in combo with the peas and java >could get to be kind of ritualistic, especially with a dance of some kind to >follow, or to intersperse. A Wasabi Pea Performance. Who will write the >score?? > >: <> > >> Although some brilliant type did >> apply it to green peas and make them crunchy. If you are ever bored >> ("ever to say you're bored," said John Berryman's mother, "means you >> have no inner resources." Poor John.) do buy them (Kasugai Roasted Hot >> Green Peas, saying at top of package "A Happy Present From [series of >> Japanese glyphs]) and you will cease to be bored immediately. The most >> stange juxtaposition of flavors, which makes you begin to notice other >> strange juxtapositions. The immanence of the wonderful becoming imminent >> and then present, right inside your own head. >> >> Proximity of mouth, nose, and brain. This must be meaningful. >> >> Have there been any fluxus artists who have experimented with the effect >> on perception/cognition of flavors and smells? >> >> (crunch crunch) >> >> AK > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2094 10:25:53 -0400 >From: "ddyment" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [none] > >p, > >your brilliant retort has upped the self-loathing quota in my >passive/aggressive behaviour. well said. > >it was not a personal attack on you at all (your posts are far better than >most). just a general note about using this forum as conversation. there are >many worse offenders than you, with considerably less to say. > >my inbox becomes clogged and i get frustrated, rifle off a complaint and >then realize it sounds more harsh than i intend so add a pathetic >disclaimer. if i could just learn to use those happy faces out of >punctuation. > >truly sorry to have offended. > >dave > >(good revenge: had no idea review of godlessrenegade was online. 'twas years >ago. awful review, and not 'cause they disliked the work (something i was >not able to ascertain from the review) but because they use the word >irregardless. ) > > >>At the risk of making enemies, I venture to say that as you, Dave, >>may have certain people whose posts you never both with, why don't >>you just add me to that list. Personally, I've always appreciated and >>enjoyed ddyment's posts, but find his repetitive passive/aggressive >>self-abasement/put downs a bit irksome. >> > >------------------------------ > >End of FLUXLIST-digest V1 #337 >******************************
