High, dear Ken,
>My post did not state that the solidarity or effort was invalid.
Sure not. Why do you emphesize it?
I said they are invalid.
I mean that - as it is in my case -
ALTHOUGH I know - and I agree with you perfectly -
that these petitions never arrive
to the organisations and governments
(not speaking about the problem of incorrect and repeated signatures etc.)
- so they are in fact: invalid on the bureaucratic level -
I DO think that the circulations of these types of petitions
spread the informations about given problems.
I learned about the Sao Paulo- and Johannesburg-, etc.-cases by emil-petitions.
Then I circulated them and talked about the subjects with people,
and then they will invent new, direct and indirect means - or won't.
(I know some people who don't forward the recieved petitions,
and don't write individual letters neither
(they say: even individual letter doesn't ariive to the address),
but compose songs - based on the subject of the given petition -
and then make concerts, and rise the anger of the public
against the government,
or execute black magic operations against nasty bureaucrats,
or just simply cook such a special food that
the one who eats it vomits when a curator appears
on the corner of the street,
or works harder on the problem how to construct
really valid emil-petitions.
So, for these developments one need to recieve emil-petitions.
Well, one can say: why is it then in a form of a petition,
it can be a simple information about the case
- and then one can sing and cook and vomit,
or write an individual letter - if he/she belives in it.
Yes, but what to do, if the recieved thing is not a simple information,
but a petiton?
One should rewrite the recieved petition into a pure information,
and then forward it?)
The first sentence of the Johannesburg-petiton gives the impression
that the public opinion could influence the situation in San Paulo.
The public opinion was built up by the invalid petitions also.
That's why people hope and believe somehow - as I do -
in the _factually invalid_ petitions.
They are thrown out by the governments,
but condensating in the public opinion
under the stanedglass windows of the parliament
till they start to rot.
>It said that Internet petitions do not work.
If I could express myself correctly above, then
I hope it's clear now that I agree with you
- but not at all.
Hugh!
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