(IPUT sends this emil the third time to Fluxlist,
because IPUT did not recieve a copy of this emil
since 22.54h - 18 Aug 2000.
IS IPUT CENSORED?)
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High!

>Actually Ken has unsubscribed from Fluxlist.


IPUT recalls the process:

1.

On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Ken Friedman wrote:

(...)
> Internet petitions do not work.
(...)
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2.

Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:42:04 +0200
From: "St.Auby Tamas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Fluxlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Internet petitions do not work

High!

On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Ken Friedman wrote:

> Internet petitions do not work.

Eric Andersen - after extensive research -
have informed me that
it was the internet petition more than anything else
that made the bureaucrats in Sao Paulo Bienal
realise the consequences, and
reconsider their decision concerning Ivo Mesquita.

Hugh!

aa
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3.

(>Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:47:58 +0200
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: Ken Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Offlist note)

(...)
>many of Eric's claims are also sheer fabrications and lies
(...)
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4.

        Since IPUT doesn't believe in the notion of private,
        recieving the above "offlist note" by Ken Friedman
        IPUT have forwarded it to Eric Andersen.
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5.

Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:24:10 -0400
From: Eric Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Offlist note (fwd)
Sender: Eric Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "St.Auby Tamas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dear Tamas,

I enjoyed immensly the reaction from your mail-friend in Oslo. Can I tell
him that I know about it and how it pleased me?

All the bests
Eric
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6.

Date:  28 Jul 2000
To: Eric Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (St.Auby Tamas)
Subject: Re: Offlist note (fwd)

High, dear Eric!

>Can I tell him that I know about it and how it pleased me?

Sure.
Especially, because it's evident for him
that you know about it.

I would accept with pleasure
if you would tell him that
Tamas St.Auby is a notorious liar,
he is not an artist.,
not even a non-art-artist.,
but a monomaniac, boring bureaucrat,
who thinks he is the only expert of Fluxus and all,
who is an uncurable solipsist
- or something like that.

Hugh!

aa
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7.

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:59:26 +0200
To: "St.Auby Tamas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Ken Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Please keep my private correspondence private if you wish to
 exchange email.
Status: RO
X-Status: A

Dear Tamas,

Why the hell did you involve me in correspondence with Eric Andersen?

Private correspondence ought to be private. Now you've started things up again.
He doesn't like you any more than he likes me.
(...)
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8.

Date:  3 Aug 2000
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (St.Auby Tamas)
Subject: Re: Please keep my private correspondence private if you wish to
exchange email.
Cc: Eric

High, dear Ken!

On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Ken Friedman wrote:

> Private correspondence ought to be private.

I'm sorry, Ken,
IPUT doesn't believe in the notion of private.
If one shares anything
it is immediately ought to be collective
in the holy name of Techne.
Noone should, can oblige IPUT to keep
the shared in private.
IPUT enjoys glasnost.y.

> He doesn't like you any more than he likes me.

Yes, we know.
It's because Mr Andersen doesn't trust. anymore
the secretary of IPUT,
because she knew, but
- althought she had some obscure love-st.ory with him
while they met at a Landsbergis-party some years ago in Toscana)
didn't tell to him what
Szaraz Belshar wrote to Ben Vautier about him:
>Eric Andersen is a notorious liar,
>he is not an artist.,
>not even a non-art-artist.,
>but a monomaniac, boring bureaucrat, who
>thinks he is the only expert of Fluxus and all,
>who is an uncurable solipsist.(.)
(Well, the laughter exploded when Vautier wrote it to Benjamin Patterson
who then wrote it to Mr. Andersen who wrote back that
it was him who wrote it first. to IPUT
about himself
who then wrote to Ms. Belshar
- and all this happened during one afternoon
between 5 countries .
Did you hear that?)
(...)
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9.

Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:43:03 +0200
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (St.Auby Tamas)
From: Ken Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Public forum.

Dear Tamas,

I don't agree with your idea of broadcasting private
correspondence, but if you feel everything ought to
be public, then go right ahead and publish what you
want.

We can communicate via a public forum rather than
through private notes.

Yours,

Ken

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Since Ken unsubscribed from the FLUXLIST
how can IPUT
>communicate via a public forum rather than
>through private notes
?

Hugh!

aa


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