> Fluxlisters the time is NOW! UNITE!!!! Read this article and be AWAKENED
and 
> ENLIGHTENED! Or, be put to sleep! (But in what sense? THe literal or the 
> euthanistic?) Too long have we lingered in the pea-brain, or pee-brain,
and 
> WE SHOULD NOT!!
> >>
> >>http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2001/05/16/manifestos/index.html
> 

The dreaded Mary Anne Caws of the U of Iowa "Dada/Surrealism" academic
windbag
journal which since late 70's consistently took the excitement and life out
of Dada by making it the territory of academics for bloodless analysts...
the new book sounds great but when I saw her name it was like hmmmm...
maybe not. Actually, as a source of info it was sometimes useful but for
the most part DREK!

Reed 

 
> 
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> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:25:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: { brad brace } <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: FLUXLIST: hosta
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> Can hosta be planted in full sun or are they just a shade plant?
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> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:13:32 +0100
> From: Carol Starr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: hosta
> 
> hi brad,
> according to my garden book hostas are all shade lovers.
> bye, carol :)
> 
> { brad brace } wrote:
> > 
> > Can hosta be planted in full sun or are they just a shade plant?
> 
> - -- 
> carol starr
> taos, new mexico, usa
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> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:16:48 -0700
> From: Terrence Kosick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: hosta
> 
> shade
> 
> { brad brace } wrote:
> 
> > Can hosta be planted in full sun or are they just a shade plant?
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:48:31 
> From: "Melissa McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: hosta
> 
> I've got hostas in full sun.... Don't know if it's right or not, but
they're 
> growing.
> ME
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 06:11:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: { brad brace } <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: hosta
> 
> Thanks carol >^,,^
> 
> - --- 
> 
> On Mon, 21 May 2001, Carol Starr wrote: 
> 
> > hi brad, according to my garden book hostas are all shade lovers.  bye,
> > carol :) 
> 
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> 
> Try and be a sheet of paper with nothing on it.           
> Be a spot of ground where nothing is growing,       Rumi               
> where something might be planted,                   Sufi Poet and Mystic
> a seed, possibly, from the Absolute.                1202 - 1273
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> 
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:00:24 -0500
> From: scott rigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Questions
> 
> Josh,
> 
> is nd.org still in operation?
> I just tried to email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> and received a no-such-user return email.
> I've seen this website before, but just now
> saw it listed on your self-titled homepage.
> I  may be interested in some contact
> of some kind (based solely on what
> I gathered fro m the website)...
> that is, if they are still operating.
> what is/ was your involvement?
> 
> sincerely,
> Scott Rigby
> 
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> 
> 
> Josh Ronsen wrote:
> 
> > What is anti-art?
> >
> > At what point does anti-art become art?
> >
> > -Josh Ronsen
> > http://www.nd.org/jronsen
> >
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> 
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:48:50 +0200
> From: "St.Auby Tamas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: FLUXLIST: [im] From the Multitudes of Europe Rising Up Against
the Empire (fwd)
> 
> From the Multitudes of Europe, Rising Up Against the Empire
> and Marching on Genoa (19-20 July 2001)
> 
> We are new, and yet we are the same as always.
> We are ancient to the future, an army of disobedience. For centuries we
have
> marched, armed with stories as weapons, "dignity" emblazoned across our
> ensigns.In the name of dignity we fight those who play the lords and
masters of
> people and meadows, forests and waters. Those who rule arbitrarily, impose
> the order of the Empire and impoverish the communities.
> 
> We are the peasants of the _Jacquerie_. Our villages were plundered by the
> mercenaries of the Hundred Years War and the nobles made us starve. In the
> Year of Our Lord 1358 we took up arms, destroyed their castles and took
the
> ill-gotten back. Some of us were captured and decapitated, blood flowed
from
> our noses, but we were on the march and we would not stop again.
> 
> We are the _ciompi_ of Florence, the workers of factories and the minor
> arts. In the Year of Our Lord 1378 a carder led us to rebellion. We took
> over the city council and reformed the statute of arts and professions.
The
> lords escaped to the countryside and organized the siege of the town.
After
> two years they defeated us and restored the oligarchy, but nothing could
> stop the contagious spirit of our example.
> 
> We are the peasants of England who battled against the nobles to get rid
of
> tolls and excises. In the Year of Our Lord 1381 we heard the preaching of
> John Ball: "When Adam dalf and Eve span / Who was then a gentilman?". We
set
> off from Essex and Kent with pruning hooks and pitchforks. We occupied
> London and set buildings on fire. We sacked the palace of the Arch-bishop
> and opened the doors of jails. By the King's appointment many of us went
to
> the gallows, but things had been changed forever.
> 
> We are the _Hussites_. We are the _Taborites_. We are the Bohemian
labourers
> and craftsmen who rebelled against the Pope, the King and the Emperor
after
> Ian Hus was burnt at the stake. In the Year of Our Lord 1419 we assaulted
> the town hall of Prague and threw the burgomaster and the councillors out
> the window. King Wenceslaus died of a heartache. The powerful of Europe
> waged war on us, and so we called the Czech people to arms. We drove back
> all invasions, counterattacked and entered Austria, Hungary, Brandenburg,
> Saxony, Franconia and the Palatine. The heart of a continent was in our
> hands. We abolished servitude and the tithes. We were defeated after
thirty
> years of war and crusades.
> 
> We are the thirty-four thousand men that answered the call of Hans the
> Piper. In the Year of Our Lord 1476 the Madonna of Niklashausen appeared
to
> Hans and said:
> "There shall be neither kings nor princes, neither papacy nor priesthood,
> neither taxes nor tithes. Meadows, forests and waters shall belong to all
> people. Every one shall be a brother to each other, possessing no more
than
> his neighbour".
> We arrived on the day of St. Margaret, a candle in one hand and a spear in
> the other. The Holy Virgin would tell us what to do. The knights of the
> Bishop captured Hans, then they attacked and defeated us. Hans burned at
the
> stake, but the words of the Virgin did not.
> 
> We are the String Shoe, the labourers and peasants of Alsace. In the Year
of
> Our Lord 1493 we conspired to kill the usurers and cancel all debts,
> confiscate the treasuries of the monasteries, reduce the priests' incomes,
> abolish oral confession and establish local courts elected by the
> communities. On Easter Sunday we attacked the stronghold of Schlettstadt.
We
> were defeated. Many of us were arrested and put on the rack, to be
quartered
> or decapitated. Many were crippled by having their hands and fingers
chopped
> off, and were driven out of the country. Yet those who kept marching
spread
> the String Shoe throughout Germany. After years of repression and
> re-organization, the String Shoe rose up in Freiburg in the Year of Our
Lord
> 1513. The March
> went on, and the String Shoe has never stopped.
> 
> We are Poor Konrad, the peasants of Suabia that rebelled against the taxes
> on wine, meat and bread, in the Year of Our Lord 1514. We were five
thousand
> and threatened to conquer Schorndorf, in the valley of Rems. Duke Ulrich
> promised he would abolish the new taxes and examine the peasants'
> complaints. He was only seeking to keep us quiet and gain time. The revolt
> spread all over Suabia. Our delegates were admitted to the diet in
> Stuttgart. It was decided to depose and punish three of the hated
> councillors of the Duke, to add to the Duke a council of four knights,
four
> burghers and four peasants, and to confiscate the monasteries and the
> endowments in favour of the State treasury. Ulrich convened another diet
in
> Tuebingen, and his neighbours helped him  gather troops. It was not easy
to
> take the valley of Rems by force: Ulrich besieged and starved Poor Konrad
on
> the mountain of Koppel, then he plundered the villages. Sixteen hundred
> peasants were captured, sixteen of them decapitated, and the rest received
> heavy fines. And yet Poor Konrad still revolts.
> 
> We are the peasants of Hungary that rallyed for the crusade against the
> Turk, and decided to wage war on the nobles instead, in the Year of Our
Lord
> 1514. Sixty thousand armed men, at the orders of commander Dozsa, spread
the
> insurrection all across the country. The army of the nobles surrounded us
at
> Czanad, where a "Republic of Equals" had been founded. They captured us
> after a two months' siege. Dozsa was roasted on a red-hot throne, his
> lieutenants were forced to eat his flesh. Thousands of peasants were
impaled
> or hanged. The massacre and the impious Eucharist led the March astray,
but
> could not stop it.
> 
> We are the army of peasants and miners that followed Thomas Muentzer. In
the
> Year of the Lord 1524 we shouted: All things are common! and declared war
> upon the world order. Our Twelve Articles shook the powerful of Europe. We
> conquered towns and won the hearts of the people. The Lansquenets
> exterminated us in Thuringia, Muentzer was torn to pieces by the headsmen,
> and yet nobody could deny it: all that belonged to the earth, to the earth
> would return.
> 
> We are the "Diggers": a community of unemployed labourers and landless
> peasants. In the Year of Our Lord 1649 we gathered in Walton-on-Thames,
> Surrey, occupied the common land and started to dig it up. We wanted to
live
> together and share the fruits of the earth. The lords of the manor aroused
> the populace, we were seized and locked up by an angry mob. Countrymen and
> soldiers assailed us and trampled our crops. When we cut the woods on the
> common, the landlords sued for damages and trespass. We moved to Cobham
> Manor, built four houses and started a crop of winter grain. Troops
attacked
> us, destroyed the houses and again trampled the fields. We persisted.
Other
> diggers started crops in Kent and Northamptonshire. A mob drove them out.
> The law defeated us and we set out again.
> 
> We are the serfs, miners, fugitives and deserters that joined Pugachev's
> Cossacks to overthrow the autocracy of Russia and abolish servitude. In
the
> Year of Our Lord 1774 we conquered strongholds, confiscated riches and
moved
> to Moscow. Pugachev was captured, but the seed was going to bear fruit.
> 
> We are the army of General Ludd. Our fathers were cleared off their lands
> and we became weavers.  Then came that weaving machine. In the Year of Our
> Lord 1811 we ran across the countryside of England, stormed factories,
> destroyed machines and laughed in the face of constables. The government
> sent thousands of soldiers and armed civilians. A disgraceful law
> established that machines were more important than human beings, and those
> who destroyed machines had to be hanged. Lord Byron warned:
> "Is there not blood enough upon your penal code, that more must be poured
> forth to ascend to Heaven, and testify against you? How will you carry the
> bill into effect? Can you commit a whole country to their own prisons?
Will
> you erect a gibbet in every field and hang up men like scarecrows? Or will
> you proceed (as you must to bring this measure into effect) by
decimation? .
> . . Are these the remedies for a starving and desperate populace?"
> The rebellion broke out, but we were tired and underfed. Those who escaped
> the slip-knot were deported to Australia. And yet General Ludd still rides
> at the edge of the fields, in the dead of night, rallying his troops.
> 
> We are the workers of Cambridgeshire under the orders of Captain Swing. In
> the Year of Our Lord 1830 we rose up against despotic laws. We set barns
on
> fire, destroyed machines, threatened landlords, assaulted police stations
> and executed narks. We were sent to the gallows, but the call of Captain
> Swing would gather a bigger army. Their advance would raise a dust that
> soiled all coppers' coats and judges' gowns. The assault on the sky would
> last 150 years.
> 
> We are the weavers of Silesia who rebelled in the year 1844. We are the
> fabric printers that set fire to Bohemia in the same year. We are the
> proletarian insurgents of the Year of Grace 1848. We are the spectres that
> tormented popes, tzars, bosses and footmen. We are the populace of Paris
in
> the Year of Grace 1871.
> We have gone through the century of revenge and madness, and we keep on
> marching.
> 
> _They_ say that they are new, they christen themselves by acronyms: G8,
IMF,
> WB, WTO, NAFTA, FTAA� They cannot fool us, they are the same as those who
> have come before them: the �corcheurs that plundered our villages, the
> oligarchs that re-conquered Florence, the court of Emperor Sigismund that
> beguiled Ian Hus, the diet of Tuebingen that obeyed Ulrich and refused to
> admit Poor Konrad, the princes that sent the lansquenets to Frankenhausen,
> the impious that roasted Dozsa, the landlords that tormented the Diggers,
> the autocrats that defeated Pugachev, the government whom Byron cursed,
the
> old world that stopped our assaults and destroyed all stairways to heaven.
> 
> Nowadays they have a new empire, they impose new servitudes on the whole
> globe, they still play the lords and masters of the land and the sea.
> 
> Once again, we the multitudes rise up against them.
> 
> Genoa.
> Italian peninsula.
> 19, 20 and 21 of July
> in a Year that no longer belongs to any Lord.
> 
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