Jackson mac low is certainly in the spirit of fluxus and has had some associations with fluxus people--in any case, fluxus in some sense means taking communicative means and playing with them, whether those means are visual, verbal, sonic, etc--after all, higgins's intermedia includes all these. And, as John notes, the list is what the list becomes. We've never been very prescriptive--that is, if you want it different start posting different things. AK ddyment wrote: > not sure how to phrase this. i really mean no offensive by it and it's not a > direct response to anyone in particular (i skim so fast i don't even know > who's who anymore). the question is > > when did this become a poetry site? > > i'm not opposed to poetry, but it has little in common with fluxus. you > could argue that concrete poetry overlapped into fluxus (a very little) but > of all the contributions fluxus made to culture (performance, events, > multiples, artists' books, etc) concrete poetry has aged the worst. > > i think of emmett williams as the only fluxus artist who would identify > him/herself as a poet first and foremost. and his output has been > consistently mediocre. has anyone /read/ his autobiography? his something > else press years (the best things he's done) are completely ignored due to > something that happened with dick higgins which he never forgave (an > interesting story for those in the know). that which is included, is > unbearably dull. > > i realize i am in the minority when i say that this list would benefit from > a more historical perspective. i am not against the idea of new art emerging > and being disseminated online. but if the concern is really NEW then start a > new forum. why call it fluxus? it's like those boring artists on ebay who > try to sell their work as genuine fluxus. it's not continueing a tradition > (and who wants to do that, anyway) - it's exploitation. > > fluxus was just a name chosen at random,from the dictionary. there are many > more. > > dave > > i'm sure this lives up to my passive/aggressive reputation. forgive me.
