Thanks for the clear up...it actually helps me in writing my own haikus now....I guess it's time for me to break the 5-7-5 rule.
Christopher ----- Original Message ----- From: "wayfarers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:40 pm Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Haiku after Arguelles (A replyification) > 'Scuse me butting in, but... > > Yes, haiku were originally meant to follow the 5-7-5 syllables > convention.Though they were also supposed to end with a noun or > another strongly > emotional word, and to contain some kind of word or phrase that > referred to > the season during which they were composed (winter, spring, etc; > footballseason wouldn't count!). According to Basho, haiku had to > describe a > particular incident while suggesting a universal principle. > > Even Japanese poets had started ditching the strict rules by the > end of the > 19th Century. Including the strict syllable-counting. And right > from the > start of the European fascination with haiku (in France around the > turn of > the 20th Century), whether or not to stick to the "traditional" > rules has > been pretty much a matter of the poets own preference. > > So there you go. It can be haiku even when it doesn't follow the > 5-7-5 > syllable formula. > > Just my poetic tuppenyworth. > > Philip > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Christopher J Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 27 February 2002 17:06 > Subject: FLUXLIST: Haiku after Arguelles (A replyification) > > > I suppose..but poetry has fine lines between forms...when one > calls his > poetry haiku..then that one should know that syllables are in sets > of 5- > 7-5..otherwise..it's not haiku...it'sfreewrite, short prose, or stream > of conciousness poetry... > > Christopher > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: tom�z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 3:16 pm > Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Haiku after Arguelles > > > > > i cannot say that i am overwhelmed by the haiku's, > > i know too little about it either, > > but at some point, couldn't you > > argue that a technically bad haiku, may well still be a haiku? > > Christopher J Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John Bennett, > > > > Maybe I'm overstepping my bounds or am missing something..but your > > haiku's...should be in syllables of 5-7-5...your's are not...Am I > > misreading them?...Help me out. > > > > CHRIS MULDER > > ARtist - ARTeest - Artust > > > > > > tom�z > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get personalised at My Yahoo!. > > >
