DEAR FRIENDS & FELLOW WORKERS
very interesting and thought provoking to find this discussion--as have been reading books by hendricks and knowles of late at a bookstore
the similarity one finds--is that both work with the everyday materials, incidents--
two books by hendricks i have been perusing--many photos of objects and scenes --the work in process--
one finds this in knowles as well
one difference--the knowles appear in much more polished & expensive volumes!
hendricks sems to be more a mix of searching & finding, a sort of quest--
and knowles more of a delineated pattern--as per the use of instructions, recipes and so on--
more performance oriented
whereas in hendricks, the performance is simply what he has done--documeted--
i was wondering--maybe sheer force of personality--has a "weight" in the flux scale?
ie.e knowles is a much more forceful personality and artist--
hendricks more of the gentleness noted--"macrobiotic" etc--
(though knowles is obsessed with beans!--wonderfully so--)
a friend of mine is on a serious yoko ono kick of late
showed me many many books and cds by yoko--the latter, the old albums, had not heard in years
used to drop with friends lots of acid mixed with ripple wine and play yoko on portable record player in the woods in new hampshire and vermont--in part for the sheer pleasure--in part to scare away wild drinking bikers careening through the midnight forests--
one of yoko's pieces my friend likes a lot--many in a way--are simply holes cut in objects, surfaces--through which the scene presents itself
riding on bus after looking at these--
passing large construction site
the plastic signs put up with names of the various compnaies involved--
had been torn in places, almost circularly so--
and one could see through to piles of rubble, heaps of tools, bags of concrete--
two weeks ago on that site a worker was killed--
a crane misfuctioned and dropped a beam on him
though have been participating in fluxlst projects for some years now
must admit i am very ignorant of the hisotry, the canon so to speak, the various hierarchies and arcane disputes
don't know if i should be reading the various historical books have seen or not
as i find the bit of fluxus i know and understand
continually happening all around, every day--in so many ways
so--why provoke nostalgia?--for what exists!
in that way--fluxus is living--i believe--continually
"The Eternal Network"
as in Mail Art--
community/communication
onwo/ards!
david baptiste
From: "zoe marsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: What's Fluxus. Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 11:38:38 +0000
From: "alan bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: What's Fluxus. Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 12:15:07 +0200
----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Drogy"
Geoff Hendricks > does he do different things now ??
nope! he's still the cloudsmith.
geoff's work and indeed his actual personality, perhaps don't smack of
fluxus, initially. very much the macrobiotic hippy style, but closer
inspection of geoff's works reveals a sensibilty akin to those producers of
the early event scores etc.
perhaps it's easy to get sidetracked by the whimsicality, the jokes and the
irony of a lot of classic 'maciunas governed' fluxus, and to ignore the
rest. it's interesting that geoff often gets lumped into a 'not really very
fluxy' category yet alison knowles not- yet for me their is an air of
'similarity' (not sure if that is the best way to describe it) - at least in
the feel of their works.
is it not interesting that in, for want of a better term, 'group' so diverse
and so widely discussed, that often the 'everything is fluxus' or
'everything is open to interpretation as fluxus' that a common point of
discussion is 'just how fluxus was/is.....?'
if, for example, fluxus must be accepted due to historical definition as a
definite 'group' or even 'movement' as is often claimed. then, examination
of said group will reveal a gigantic, diverse range of activity (even among
the inner core of accepted fluxus artists). is it possble to have some sort
of scale within? there is the fluxus chart compiled by (filliou &
williams?/ - i don't remember - Bertrand?) which charts presence at
wiesbaden etc and forwm the beginnings of a fluxscale. but a new official
fluxometer could be good.
Geoff Hendricks - 4.7 on the Fluxscale
fun but doesn't make much sense
what i think i wanted to say was
yes geoff still does clouds and bits of wood and string etc
how can we judge the fluxusishness of someone/thing?
i think i have sunstroke
alan
Maybe it is not the something but the process of making and person who makes. there are some fluxus artifacts that look (and probably smell and taste) like other stuff from other movements, but are not because of the way they were presented or made. i dont know geoff or his clouds but maybe presenting something not very fluxy in a not very fluxy way and then calling it fluxus is a fluxus event in itself. or perhaps postfluxusism? luv zoe
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