Dear Allen, Sol and all, Thanks a lot for your lasts posts, I guess they express exactly what "almost" 50% of americans are enduring right now. Here in France of course, almost noone could even think that W might be re-elected, the stupidity, the rapacity, the ugliness, the hypocrisy of this government seemed enough to disqualify it. But that's true too, that our right winged president is almost considered as a communist in the north american newspapers... The problem is not only that "our countries are largely populated by idiots who are quite prepared to have any government at all as long as their own life is not affected", it's that even if they're affected by this politics, they keep on voting for their tormentor: those who have vote for Kerry are not the lower class workers -to the contrary- who were however the most hardly touched by Bush's politics. (Here we vote on sundays, it's easier for people to vote, even if they're poor, even if they can't leave their job, even if they can't loose a single day of salary: one normally doesn't work on sundays, isn't it? Usually, it's more rarely the case on tuesdays...And we count the bulletins by hand, and we use an actual piece of paper as bulletin, and the people who recount the votes are just votants that have been asked if they had the time to do it: I did it several times, and I can't remember of day that we were missing people to do the job, even in my very poor neighbourhood of the north suburb of Paris...and of course, you do not get paid to do that, and the lists are revised very often to be sure that noone can vote in different places, and the borders of the counties are almost never touched because if one does, the political balance would be rather unfairly modified: and even with all this, we had the choice during the last elections between a proto-neo-fascist, Jean-Marie Le Pen (who, compared to Rumsfeld, could be seen as a moderate...), and a gaullist hook, multi-frauder, who is known to have been elected now with a sovietic type of result (of 82%) The worst is that we will all suffer from this election, as our economies, which are attacked by american investment funds to pay the pensions retired people of the USA. The only good thing, is that european cultural life may know a rebirth (and I hope not a christian one...)thanks to all the "cultural refugiees" that will flee the USA, as we did profit of the Mac Carthysm, of the dictatures in south america (established by the CIA BTW), of the refusal of the vietnam war and so forth, and as the USA did find a profit in the sudden arrival of all the intellectual "�lite" coming from Europe around the First and then the Second World War.
OK I stop that bullshit, it's just that... Well you know better than I do: I'm not the one with Bush signs on my neighbour lawns... Bon courage Bertrand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sol Nte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 5:16 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Happy Thanksgiving > Allen, > > regarding Bush etc. > > I think we have to accept the fact that our countries (the UK is just as bad > for this) are largely populated by idiots who are quite prepared to have any > government at all as long as their own life is not affected. Many people > don't seem to care about the welfare of others or the rest of the world even > those who are disenfranchised themselves. As an observer from outside the US > it doesn't surprise me that Bush was re-elected. but then again I felt that > Kerry was pretty flawed too, there was too much going on about him being a > military man etc. > > as the old anarchist maxim goes: > "No matter who you vote for the government always gets in!" > > At least with the US system Bush can't be re-elected again. With the UK > system we end up with the same government for years and years..here the > government even decides when to hold the next general election so they can > put it off if they're worried about being unpopular at a particular point in > time. > > cheers, > > Sol. > > >
