There is probably a research unit out there somewhere that might want to do
something like this???

Silly naive me .... but has anyone looked into it?

Ray ... From way out at <WORLDSedge> and the  home of <ZENzing>



On Wednesday, January 19, 2005, at 03:30 PM, suse wrote:

Wouldn't it be great if at least one or two senior fluxmeisters put some
funds up for the sites
and one or two fluxlings helped to keep them going--
ah from the naive Suse
lurking,
thanks for the coffee,
and the tea
Ching!



----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Events for Allen Bukoff


I'm going to crawl out from under my rock to give my take on the Allen
quitting thing.  Allen obviously felt that his dedication was going
unappecriated by the artists he revered, and to maintain/pay for/be
associated with an online compendium of these artists would indeed be a
bitter pill to swallow, with the already bad taste that Fluxus appears to
have left in his mouth.

Still, I wish the sites were still up, since I found them invaluable and
lively and informative. But online publishing is an ongoing, often
thankless, effort. Unlike beling able to disavaow a book one wrote earlier
in one's career, sites disappear if you don't keep them going. It sucks it
came to this, but he is perfectly entited to let the whole affair go if
the
love is gone for him.

I have a good hippy friend who corresponded with the Allman Brothers fan
club. offering his services to them in whatever they needed, eventually
uprooting and moving to Macon, GA just to be more involved. He helped
promote concerts, lick envelopes, etc etc, happily being involved in
something he loved until one day, one of the band members came through the
fan club headquartes and proceeded to make fun of the hippy pants he was
wearing, and make fun of him in general, souring him on the whole deal. It
was devistating to him that people who he spent a lot of his free time
devoted to would callously disregard him like that, enough to make him
wahnt
nothing to do with the band and their music.  So, though this is not the
exact same situation, I can see how Allen felt. Granted, the artists are
under no obligation to history or the fans, but basically the flowers in
your garden you ignore, tend to shrivel up.

Alex V. Cook

From: "Sol Nte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Hi all,

I have to say that the more I think about it all I really feel that Allen
Bukoff has done by withdraw his Fluxus websites is penalise members of
Fluxlist and students interested in Fluxus. Those Fluxus artists he
addresses more than likely don't care one way or the other whether
fluxus.org or fluxlist exists.......certainly they've never taken part so
the only people that have taken part in collaborative Fluxus works on the
web now get to see their work disappear (e.g Shoe Days etc.).

I can appreciate Allen's point of view but don't really feel that
anything
has been achieved by closing the websites.

As to the future of Fluxlist  - I think it's as healthy as ever,
interestingly the number of members is around the same as it was 5 years
ago. The list will still provide the virtual forum it always has done.



cheers,

Sol.












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