>Allan Bowman reveals a similar bias and - even knowing a >lot of these 
people personally won't claim to be a part of it - >presumably because of his 
precieved weak position historically >or in terms of attitude or in terms of 
not being considered "in" >by the in crowd or through personal experience 
decided that they >were some completely other sort of people that he at first 
>thought and wants nothing to do with them.  (please inform us of >the reality 
of that allan - I am just stirring the pot here).



i don't claim to part if it because i'm not!  i don't feel a part of it, i like 
the people, i like some of what they are doing and a lot of what they have 
done.  my cousin's husband used to play for sunderland, i like him but i still 
support newcastle.

if you go back through  the fluxlist archives you will see that i have changed 
my tune somewhat over the years.  i think that if people want to used the 
fluxus name then there has to be some sort of move take it on and stop worrying 
about the past.  if you want to be fluxus, be fluxus that's fine.  but be 
prepared for opposition.  unfortunately the sheer inability to define fluxus as 
one concrete thing  is always going to stir shit up.  i no longer wish to be 
classed as a fluxus artist, i dont think the name fits, it just doesn't feel 
right to me.  i'm not sure why, perhaps it has got something to do with working 
with these people!  seeing that the fluxus tag doesn't really fit them either 
(in my head!) as they are all so different and do such different stuff, think 
different things.

i can't work out what it is that makes each one fluxus, i have difficulty in 
using that to classify such things.  i can't even classify my own work as i 
have no set media or way of working and do different things for very different 
reasons - even if the motive is often hard for me to work out.  in the past i 
would have been happy to have been lumped in as a fluxus artist, for extremely 
cynical reasons the mistake has proved useful in the past.  the high point in 
my career (ahem!) was when ben and emily chose 3 pieces of mine to go in a 
'Fluxus' show when the established artists only got to send one.  i like 
fluxus, i'm inspired by fluxus, i have performed fluxus with fluxus and have 
shown with fluxus.  does that make me fluxus?



i don't think so, the sad thing is that i don't REALLY know why any more, not 
that i think about it a lot really.  perhaps it's the frustration of not being 
able to put a name to what i do, to make it easier to explain (a refernce 
point), that i have come to live with, makes it difficult for me to understand 
why so many wish to be called fluxus and then wish to discuss it.  don't get me 
wrong, i am not against people doing so, i even wear my fluxus midwest pin with 
pride.  

Ahh!! now that's interesting!  i am happy to align myself with allen's fluxus 
midwest...hmmmm.

perhaps i'm just scared of eric andersen?



anyway, i was just airing a point of view, not terribly well but i tried!  i'm 
just interested in trying to redefine fluxus for the 21st century (i can't but 
i like to see what others think) and am fascinated by the way it has 
effected/affected people. 



with apologies, my attention span is at about 90 seconds max at the moment 
which is making life somewhat difficlut to organise.  you should have seen 
class 4's maths lesson this morning, they were better behaved than me!



alan

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