Hi Penny,
Welcome to the land of FME (that's usually SRG's line, but he's in
Vancouver at the moment so I'll steal it). 

It's great to hear from a newbie who isn't put off by the long-winded
discussions between Jason and myself.

The more I think about it, the more I like the numbering idea. It's
difficult to know sometimes in which order items will happen -
particularly if there's a custom transformer involved or a 'Creator'
type transformer that doesn't have an input port.

If you have an important workspace (and it's content isn't
confidential for some reason) then feel free to post it here for folk
to pick over - very frequently a more experienced user can spot a
quick change that would save you a lot of time and editing effort.

Oh - and always check out fmepedia.com - there's a load of useful
stuff on there.

Mark

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> Howdy all,
> 
> I'm a relatively new user of FME and there is a lot of stuff to take in
> when your a newbie.  I think a numbering system on the link
connections and
> on the readers/writers would be a great help.  I understand that it may
> complicate things a little but could it perhaps be put in as a
preference
> so it can be turned on and off?
> 
> I work with very large datasets (13 -15 million records in each
dataset )
> and any performance improvements make a big difference so thanks for all
> the tips.  I've been working on some workspaces using clippers so
I'm going
> to go back and revisit them.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Penny Flannigan
> 
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> Hello Jason, others,
> 
> This was a fascinating thread, filled with hockey references (and
training
> camp is only just starting up this week!).
> 
> But the root of it I think is a bit unfortunate.  From what I can
tell the
> contentious issue was about the order of features flowing into
things, and
> the fact that if you’re doing clipping or spatialfiltering,
you’re MUCH
> BETTER off if somehow you can get the clipper/filter features to arrive
> first than they straggle through the door at some point mid translation.
> 
> So, a few comments:
> 
>       1)    We should emphasize this fact in the documentation for the
>       Clipper and SpatialFilter â€" by way of this email I’m
asking that this
>       be done
>       2)    We should then also give a description of how you can
control
>       the feature order in workbench â€" there actually is an
obvious and
>       blatant way of doing it, but folks may not know.  I’ll
describe it
>       below.
>       3)    In general, the order that links are drawn shouldn’t be
>       something we’d want people to care about.  That is a bit
subtle, but
>       I am willing to entertain ideas on how we could make that more
>       explicit if people think it is useful to know/control. For
example,
>       we could have a mode where each link gets a tiny annotation number
>       (1,2,3 etc) as it emerges from a port to tell you its order in how
>       the feature copies will shoot out.  I think we have technology
to do
>       this, probably it would be an advanced option, because again, I
>       mostly think people shouldn’t have to worry about that
expect in rare
>       cases. (I’m interested in feedback on this idea, perhaps in
its own
>       thread here on the list, or in person at the UC next week).
> 
> RE: #2, the recommended way to get the clippers/filters into factories
> first is just to set up a reader for them, and make that reader the
first
> reader.  You can control the order that the features are read â€"
they are
> read from each reader in order from top to bottom as they are listed
in the
> navigation pane, and indeed, the writers are written to in the order
they
> are listed in the navigation pane.  You can move readers/writers up and
> down as need be in the navigation pane not by dragging
unfortunately, but
> by right clicking on them and saying move up or down.
> 
> If you are reading a database to get both the clippers and clippees,
then
> use 2 readers on the same database, one choosing the clipper table,
and the
> second one choosing the clippee table.  Then the order of things is
> explicit and not surprising.
> 
> Should we number the readers and writers in the navigation pane to drive
> home this point?
> 
> All feedback welcomed as we, like the Borg, strive for perfection.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dale
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