Thanks a lot, Mark.

I have found that, the way I used "export to autocad" format means 
the proxy AEC objects will be exploded. (It is dwg format, not dwf). 
FME can convert the exploded geometries successfully to GML 
surfaces, but the information of which polygons belong to which 
Window object was lost (not what I want).

I followed your hints to add the older Autodesk reader, which 
supported proxies objects. And I tried both AutoCAD2007 and 
AutoCAD2000 dwg formats (not exploded). For 2007 dwg format, I could 
get correct feature number,e.g. 2 window features were written, but 
without any geometry data. For 2000 dwg, I could get geometry data, 
but with wrong feature numbers (FME said 14 features output, but 
actually only 2 windows), and the geometries were also not correct. 
Did I make something wrong (My test dataset is not complex, only 
several walls with two windows. And I followed the default settings 
of FME. If you like, I can send you the dataset.)?

Surely it will be appreciated if the proxy reading can be 
implemented soon. 

best regards
John

--- In [email protected], "mark2atsafe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello John,
> Happy new year to you too. I hope I'll be able to make it a little
> more happy with this response.
> 
> Starting on the negative side though, I don't believe FME supports 
the
> entities unique to the Architectural desktop. I understand that the
> library we use does support it, so I guess there is the potential 
to
> add this ability at a later date.
> 
> On the positive side, there are a couple of workarounds we can try.
> 
> The first is that the older Autodesk reader did support proxies, 
and
> we can try that to see if it helps. When you browse for a source
> dataset, the formats gallery has a column called 'short name'. The
> current DWG reader has a short name of "ACAD". What you need is one
> with the name "DWG". What you'll have to do to see it though, is
> re-expose it - since it's deprecated it will have been hidden.
> 
> In your FME install directory there's a file called formats.db - 
open
> it in a text editor and locate the DWG format. Delete the last 
field -
> ie the last three characters which will be "|NO". Restart FME and 
this
> format will now be available to try.
> 
> The one thing about this is that it was designed for ACAD2000, so 
you
> may need to revert your original file to that version if you can 
(try
> it without anyway, but...)
> 
> The second point is that when you chose "export to Autocad 2007
> format" I suspect that the output was saved in DWF and not DWG 
format.
> Regan in the development team tells me...
> 
> "DWF does not store entities like DWG does, but more in the style 
that
> was described, with many small parts combining to make the general
> shape of the entities"
> 
> ...so it looks like this won't work unless there is another export
> option that gives DWG without the proxy entities.
> 
> Hope this helps. If you'd like me to file an enhancement request to
> have proxy reading implemented then I'd be happy to do this, but
> obviously I can't guarantee if or when it would be implemented. 
Since
> we're close to a release, I'd have to say that it's unlikely to be 
a
> quick fix.
>



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