Juniper also recently completed Common Criteria Certification. http://niap.nist.gov/cc-scheme/st/ST_VID10058.html
Regards, Matt Gair Security Services Engagement Manager En Pointe Technologies +1 817-230-4881 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.enpointe.com/security -----Original Message----- From: Dmitry V Ushakov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 5:26 AM To: Chris Hummel Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ha: RE: Juniper and ISS Protocol Anomaly Detection Evaluation I would also mention the Tolly Group as an organization which performs "indpendent" analysis of IT products in general and ID(P)S products in particular. But I would not fully rely on their results as though all of them state that their results are not influenced by the sponsor founding their tests still they sometimes get quite diverse results. The best solution would be of course to make a pilot and test the products having them at full control. The aforementioned organizations have their test scenarios described but you can figure out your own tests to make sure the features you require from the product are actually present in the ID(P)S and not in the marketing brochure. Best regards, Dmitriy Ushakov. Technical expert Information Security Department "TechnoServ A/S" Company "Chris Hummel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> написано 16.05.2006 04:50:14: > Mike, > > In this day in age, it has become increasingly difficult to wade through the > vendor bs in an attempt to get an apples to apples comparision of the > technology that drives the products. Fortunately, there are other groups in > this world who feel the same way and have taken matters into their own > hands. One of the best independent test and evaluation bodies for various > security products is The NSS Group, based out of southern France (I > believe). After you locate their web site, find the latest online report > for NIPS and see for yourself the amount of work that is put into their > evaluations. Some of the reports (online html version only) are free, but > the vast majority are $100, which isn't that bad when you consider the total > investment that your company is about to make. > > Of course, if you prefer to do the testing yourself and also have a decent > lab setup, locate the ISIC (IP Stack Integrity Checker) test tool and have > some fun. The NSS reports actually delves into the details of their testing > methodology, so one could re-create that portion of the test. > > Your last statement hints at signature detection in the attack packet versus > it being spread out over the course of multiple packets (a TCP stream or IP > fragments). Once again, the NSS report dedicates an entire section to this > type of activity. > > Good luck, > -Chris > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > From: "Mike Youngs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Juniper and ISS Protocol Anomaly Detection Evaluation > Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 11:05:47 -0400 > > Hello Everyone, > > I am doing a network based intrusion detection and prevention system > evaluation, and have come across something I would like this groups > collective experience to give an opinion on. > > For various reasons, we have settled on making a selection between the > Juniper IDP 600C and the ISS Proventia GX5008. During our evaluation, we > have found that Juniper and ISS offer their protocol anomaly detection means > in much different ways. What I would like to hear from this group is your > experience and insight with either product's protocol anomaly detection. If > someone has insight and/or experience with both products, that will be that > much better. I hope to find out if each vendor's protocol anomaly detection > features are essentially the same thing, or if one is superior over the > other > and why, so I can make a more informed decision on this feature. > > Another way to say it is, does "protocol anomaly detection" mean the same > thing to both vendors? It appears that "attack pattern" means something > different to each vendor. One considers in the actual string or pattern to > look for in a packet, and the other considers is it multiple events when > viewed as a whole could mean an attack on a system. > > Any insight would be appreciated! Thanks in advance, > > Mike Youngs > Network Manager > Great Lakes Energy > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Test Your IDS > > Is your IDS deployed correctly? > Find out quickly and easily by testing it > with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT. > Go to http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/CoreSecurity_focus-ids_040708 > to learn more. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Test Your IDS Is your IDS deployed correctly? Find out quickly and easily by testing it with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT. Go to http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/CoreSecurity_focus-ids_040708 to learn more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
