Hello,
PCI is a contractual arrangement. It is not legistlative.
So the answer is a resonding maybe. OR and it depends.
 
If the Managed IDS [MIDS] supplier is specifically stating that they are 
offering PCI-DSS services, than they would have to meet the requirements in 
either case or it is a trade practices/unfair dealings/false statement issue. 
This is either a civil tort or criminal offense.
 
The onus is for the merchant or issuer using the MIDS to ensure that they have 
a contract stating this. Section 12.8 states:
12.8 If cardholder data is shared with service providers, then contractually 
the following is required:

12.8.1 Service providers must adhere to the PCI DSS requirements

12.8.2 Agreement that includes an acknowledgement that the service provider is 
responsible for the security of cardholder data the provider possesses.

This is a contractual arrangement. You also need to read Requirement A.1: 
Hosting providers protect cardholder data environment
 
If the merchant etc did not contract to have the provider be PCI-DSS compliant 
and the provider did not explicitly state that they are, then the merchant is 
in breach of the PCI-DSS - and NOT the MIDS provider.
 
Regards,
Craig



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri 24/08/2007 1:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: PCI/DSS compliant Managed IDS



Would Managed Security Company providing a Managed IDS service for a company 
with Tier 1 PCI/DSS compliance have to be PCI/DSS compiaant itself?

Does anyone have an opinion or experience with this?

regards

Marino



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