Ok, I have watched this thread for a bit...I will chime in.

Normally I would not try self-promoting a product.....

But, have you looked at S-lok?

http://www.s-doc.com/products/slok.asp


Dave

     -----Original Message-----
     From: Laura A. Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
     Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 16:41
     To: 'Mike Dieroff'
     Cc: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
     'Derick Anderson'
     Subject: RE: What server hardening are you doing these days?

     Very well put, Mike. I think that when people haven't
     looked at the guides, they may not realize that the bulk
     of what is in them is informative rathter than a simple
     "do this...do that" set of instructions. I personally
     believe that anybody who is touching Win2K3, claims
     interest in security, yet hasn't read the Microsoft
     Security Guidance documents should spend a few days with
     those guides before making any proclamations. One can't
     speak to that which one does not yet know. :-)

     Laura

     > -----Original Message-----
     > From: Mike Dieroff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
     > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 2:33 PM
     > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
     > Cc: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
     'Derick Anderson'
     > Subject: Re: What server hardening are you doing these days?
     >
     > As a man of few words Laura, I have to say touche!!!
     >
     > Server hardening - what a concept when each and every
     server has and
     > depicts different needs. Nothing can compensate for a solid
     > understanding in infrastructure and application Security
     needs of a
     > network.
     >
     > Correct me if I am not wrong, but many of the guides
     facilitate an
     > understanding. Then it's all up to the imagination!!!
     >
     > Mike
     >
     > ----- Original Message -----
     > From: "Laura A. Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
     > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Derick Anderson'"
     <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
     > Cc: <[email protected]>
     > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 2:26 AM
     > Subject: RE: What server hardening are you doing these days?
     >
     >
     > > Okay, now I'm just chuckling. Have you actually downloaded
     > these guides?
     > > The
     > > Win2K3 NSA OS security guide IS the Microsoft guide. One
     > and the same.
     > > Copyrights intact. S A M E  G U I D E.
     > >
     > > Again, the NSA puts the MICROSOFT Win2K3 security guide on
     > the NSA site
     > > because it is solid, tested, and very, very well-done.
     > >
     > > Laura
     > >
     > >> -----Original Message-----
     > >> From: Syv Ritch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
     > >> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:34 PM
     > >> To: Derick Anderson
     > >> Cc: [email protected]
     > >> Subject: Re: What server hardening are you doing these days?
     > >>
     > >> Derick Anderson wrote:
     > >>
     > >> > I also stick to Microsoft best practices when it comes
     > to Microsoft
     > >> > servers, it's just safer that way. I haven't yet
     implemented the
     > >> > Windows
     > >> > 2003 Security guide templates (for fear of breaking our
     > production
     > >> > environment) but I plan to do that after I've taken care of
     > >> some other
     > >> > more basic issues (domain split, network split, user
     > >> lockdown, etc.).
     > >> >
     > >>
     > >> Maybe you should reconsider. There is lot better than
     MS when it
     > >> comes to advising on security.
     > >>
     > >> http://www.nsa.gov/snac/downloads_all.cfm
     > >>
     > >> The NSA. They have both guides and templates. It
     actually works and
     > >> is far more secure than the MS advice.
     > >>
     > >> --
     > >> Thanks
     > >> http://www.911networks.com
     > >> When the network has to work Cisco/Microsoft
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