Drew Simonis wrote:
Hello all,
I wonder if anyone on the list who might work for a good sized enterprise 
(10,000+ seats) has gone through the excercise of removing administrative 
rights from the user community?

Aside from the effort to inventory all applications and ensure that they work 
with restricted permissions, I forsee that such an effort would likely require 
changes to the entire support model.  Instead of relying on users to install 
their own software, it would need to be done for them.  New hardware would 
require intevention, etc.

If someone has completed this, was support a major new burden, or was it not as 
difficult as it might be?  If it was, how much of a burden was it (+ desktop 
support headcount? +helpdesk calls?)?

-Ds

Drew,

Have not done it in as large of an organization as you indicate, but have TRIED 
to do it in smaller organizations -- and ran into MANY brick walls. It is still 
a work-in-progress! Things are better, but we're not there yet by any stretch 
at any organization that I am working with.

The primary issue is that A LOT of applications assume/require administrative 
privilege to work. In reality, you can probably get many/most to run with less 
than admin priv, but figuring out what is the minimum required is not an easy 
task. And don't expect the application vendor to be any help either!

Trying to remove local admin priv is a trial-and-error process. A lot of apps 
will work most of the time, then one seldom-used feature breaks it.

You would be surprised the apps that require privilege to run... many big name 
ones, such as the Intuit product line. There was a discussion on DShield a few 
months back on this topic, and several people named names of applications with 
privilege problems (but nothing close to scratching the surface!).

Good luck.

Oh, BTW, as you try this task, publishing a list of the required minimum 
privilege for each application would be a great help to everyone. I wanted to 
do that, but my clients all objected.

Jon
--
Jon R. Kibler
Chief Technical Officer
Advanced Systems Engineering Technology, Inc.
Charleston, SC  USA
(843) 849-8214





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