IS there a comparison between Arcsight which is also a hardened Linux box
with loglogic and envision.
Appreciate any help to share their views on actual log management to be
deployed in a data center environment.

Thanks for help in advance.

Aruna Herath
Head - internet data center 
Sri Lanka Telecom PLC



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of James Winzenz
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Fwd: Centralizing Event Viewer Logs

enVision is appliance-based.  Their main application server is a hardened
Windows Server 2003 environment, they use their own proprietary database,
and I don't know exactly what they use for the collectors, but I know it
works (very well!).  However, you get what you pay for.  For that kind of
setup, you can expect to shell out somewhere in the vicinity of about half a
million bucks.  If you can afford it, I highly recommend it as an enterprise
solution, capable of collecting all kinds of logs, depending on what you
want.

Thanks,

James Winzenz
Infrastructure Engineer - Security
Pulte Homes Information Services


-----Original Message-----
From: Hugo Saavedra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:40 AM
To: 'M. Burnett'; James Winzenz; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Fwd: Centralizing Event Viewer Logs

Hi All,

What kind of machine your using to get 30000+ mps?

Thanks,
Hugo.
-----Mensaje original-----
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En
nombre de M. Burnett
Enviado el: viernes, 01 de febrero de 2008 23:25
Para: 'James Winzenz'; [email protected]
Asunto: RE: Fwd: Centralizing Event Viewer Logs

In a lab environment I have seen enVision go as high as 30,000+ sustained
events per second with just one collector. The thing I like best about
envision is the ability to correlate events from multiple devices and make
your own alerts from that. So if you see too many failed logins in too many
workstation event logs all at once you can be alerted. 

M. Burnett



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Winzenz
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 1:33 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Fwd: Centralizing Event Viewer Logs
> 
> If we want to start comparing enterprise products, you need to add RSA
> enVision to the list.  The system is completely scalable in terms of
> how many events per second it can handle.  We have an older HA series
> appliance, which can handle 7500 events per second sustained, with
> burst up to 9750.  Newer enterprise level appliances from RSA enVision
> are simply limited by the number of collectors you purchase, with each
> collector capable of 10,000 sustained events per second.  Can you tell
> I am biased?  I love the features it has - enterprise reporting,
> alerting, ability to collect from windows, syslog, IIS, SQL, Oracle,
> and lots others.  We haven't even tapped the potential of our system
> and we are loving what we can do with it.  Of course, once you get into
> these products, you are talking about several hundred thousand dollars.
> Not for your average Small-medium sized business.
> 
> James Winzenz
> Infrastructure Engineer - Security
> Pulte Homes Information Services
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Gage
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:26 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Fwd: Centralizing Event Viewer Logs
> 
> Check out Loglogic  http://www.loglogic.com
> 
> It will handle up to 4000 mps sustained and can handle spikes up to
> 30000 mps.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Winzenz
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 12:28 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Fwd: Centralizing Event Viewer Logs
> 
> IMHO, you get what you pay for.
> 
> Are you referring to this product?
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/eventlogmonitor/
> 
> If so, it looks like it can only deal with windows logs.  That is not
> going to get you very far.  If you want to know what is going on within
> your network, you really need something that can handle syslog messages
> as well (routers, firewalls, etc.).
> 
> Although not pertinent to the product you mentioned, I remembered
> reading on GFI's website about their event log management product.
> They were *boasting* that their collector could handle up to 6 million
> events per hour.  That boils down to a paltry 1667 events per second,
> which is absolutely pathetic.  A couple of core routers/firewalls could
> easily overwhelm this.
> 
> James Winzenz
> Infrastructure Engineer - Security
> Pulte Homes Information Services
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:08 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Centralizing Event Viewer Logs
> 
> Is there someone who already tried the product SB Eventlog Monitor?
> 
> I´m thinking about starting some tests in my network (all windows, 2000
> machines) centralizing all the logs in one server, but I would like to
> hear from you any kind of experience with this product.
> 
> I would like to know how the product behaves concerning network
> traffic, manageability and event correlation.
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