Dear Toby and others
Yes, I want to restrict my [next] overview to countries [and territories] with
a 'full' FOIA.
But what is a 'full' FOIA...... What would be a good definition or even what
would be a good working definition. In my last overview I have some attention
for this definition problem in the last section
If I get a lot of reactions I want to try to make a definition or a working
definition or minimum standards for a 'full' FOIA
Consequently a lot of countries have to be skipped from the list. Countries
like.......brrr......France, Italy, Zimbabwe
All the best, Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: Andres Mejia
To: a19law at eastlink.ca
Cc: Foianet, ; David Banisar ; Said Essoulami
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [foianet] List of countries which adopted FOI Laws
Hi all,
I agree with Toby on the subject of restricting the list to what might
credibly be described as a full FOI law.
Never the less, on the subject of Colombia, I finally had access to article
357 of Law 149 of 1888 (First Code of Municipal and Political Organization)
which does give the posssibility for every citizen to ask for copies of
documents resting in administrative offices and archives, as long as they are
not classified.
Best regards,
Andr?s M.
2009/1/9 <a19law at eastlink.ca>
Hi all,
I am not sure exactly what criteria Roger is using to place countries on
his list, but I thought it took more than an article in a law dealing mostly
with other matters. If this is enough, I suspect that there are other countries
that we need to add to the list or move back in time to the point where they
first had something like this. I personally would advocate in favour of
restricting the list to what might credibly be described as a 'full' FOI law,
even if this means sacrificing Colombia's second place medal!
Toby
----- Original Message -----
From: Andres Mejia <andresmejia07 at googlemail.com>
Date: Friday, January 9, 2009 12:21 pm
Subject: Re: [foianet] List of countries which adopted FOI Laws
> Hi Peter,
>
> The Code of Political and Municipal Organization (R?gimen Pol?tico
> Municipal) dates from 1914 and it is identified as Law 4 of 1914.
> But you
> are right, it has an article which allows all individuals to ask
> for copies
> of public documents resting in admnistrative offices and in the
> archive of
> the legislative organ on the municipal level, as long as the
> documents are
> not classified.
> This does give Colombia an honourable second place in the
> chronologicaladoption of access to public document provisions with
> Law 4 of 1914.
> Apologies for my mistake but I knew no law dating form 1888 as
> stated in the
> document and thank you very much for your clarification.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Andr?s Mej?a
> IPYS - Colombia
>
>
>
> 2009/1/9 Peter Noorlander <peter.noorlander at mediadefence.org>
>
> > Hi Andres,
> >
> >
> >
> > This is surprising. It has been widely assumed that the 1888 Code of
> > Political and Municipal Organization allowed individuals to request
> > documents held in government agencies and archives, unless
> release of these
> > documents was specifically forbidden by another law. Dave
> Banisar's survey (
> > http://www.privacyinternational.org/foi/foisurvey2006.pdf for the
> latest> update) cites to a 1994 publication as authority for that:
> "Alberto Donadio,
> > Freedom of Information in Colombia, Access Reports, 16 February
> 1994." Are
> > you saying this Code never existed?
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* foianet-bounces at foiadvocates.info [mailto:
> > foianet-bounces at foiadvocates.info] *On Behalf Of *Andres Mejia
> > *Sent:* 08 January 2009 22:03
> > *To:* Edison Lanza
> > *Cc:* Said Essoulami; Foianet,
> > *Subject:* Re: [foianet] List of countries which adopted FOI Laws
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Roger,
> >
> >
> >
> > The list gives Colombia an honorable secod place in the
> chronological list
> > of FOI Acts after Sweden. How ever, as far as I am concern there is
> > no access to information law from 1888. There was the
> Constitution of 1886
> > which had the right of every citizen to make formal petitions to
> government> authorities and to receive short term anwsers, but such
> a right did nor
> > include the right to acces public documents or to have access to
> public> information, right which was adopted with law 57 of the
> year 1985 and was
> > later taken to a constitutional level by the reform of 1991.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Andr?s Mej?a
> >
> > IPYS - Colombia.
> >
> > 2009/1/5 Edison Lanza <lanzas at adinet.com.uy>
> >
> > Dear Roger. Uruguay adopted de FOI Law on october 2008.
> >
> > Edison, Best regards
> >
> >
> >
> > El 02/01/2009, a las 11:11 AM, Roger Vleugels escribi?:
> >
> > Dear Said [and FOIANet members],
> >
> > This is the list.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Roger Vleugels
> >
> > Lecturer and legal advisor FOIA
> > Editor/publisher of Fringe [free of charge email journals a.o. on
> FOIA]>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Said Essoulami
> > To: foianet at foiadvocates.info
> > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 2:07 PM
> > Subject: [foianet] List of countries which adopted FOI Laws
> >
> >
> > Dear friends,
> >
> > Recently someone was working on a list of countries which have
> adopted FOI
> > laws. Is this list available somewhere in a website? We need it
> for a
> > presentation in Morocco.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > all the best,
> >
> > Said
> >
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