Brett makes it clear that his aim is to share ideas and get people thinking
about things like direct manipulation and better visualization of mental
models, etc. His demos were made to demonstrate, rather than do make cool
tools. This is similar to what was said previously about why VPRI's Frank
was not made code-accessible.

On the other hand, Brett has a lot of really great articles that encourage
new ways of looking at software, especially shifting from a mechanistic to
a more humanistic view of what could be. His demos are there as examples to
show that it can indeed be done.

Having the source code would certainly be useful to see how he did stuff;
but I think he wants people to think more than just consume his tools and
call that good. Perhaps he's learning from history, like how SmallTalk was
a great idea that was supposed to transcend any specific language or tool,
but when it became commercialized, it was reduced to just that, and the
greater value of the big picture was lost.

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017, 11:06 PM Julian Leviston <j...@leviston.net> wrote:

> The trouble with Brett victors work is he hasn't actually published any of
> his libraries (that I know of) or code.
>
>
> On 2 Mar 2017, at 8:11 am, Dan Cook <dcook0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have seen Lively Kernel, and I think it's a great step in the right
> direction, though it does nothing to make the language extensible (it is
> all just JavaScript).
>
> Anyone interested in the intersection of freely modifiable language and
> freely modifiable environment should DEFINITELY look at some of Bret
> Victor's work (worrydream.com). His "Drawing dynamic visualizations"
> example is (among others) a great example. If like to see the same
> technique applied to processes (code).
>
> I am working on a POC for a freely-modifiable language+environment (though
> there's nothing complete to show for it yet) at:
> https://github.com/d-cook/Objects
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017, 12:08 AM John Carlson <yottz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone see programming by demonstration environment that is extensible
> in demonstration mode?  Lively Kernel perhaps?   What would be the best PBD
> environment for aspect-oriented programming by demonstration?
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