Hi John,

I don't want to do Ian something wrong. That's how I remember our
discussion. If of importance, let's chrosscheck with him.

Cheers,

Dominikus

2010/5/10 John Zabroski <johnzabro...@gmail.com>

> I can't seem to find the paper where VPRI references it, but somewhere I
> think they reference Henry Baker's 1993 paper The Forth Shall Be First [1].
> I think Ian or Alex referenced this, which is sort of weird considering
> Dominikus's S3 Potsdam Germany anecdote that Ian said he didn't have a deep,
> visceral feel for stack langauges like Forth and Factor.
>
> [1] See: http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/3227 for discussion of this
> paper on LtU.
>
>
> On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Max OrHai <max.or...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello all.
>>
>> I'm an undergraduate student (formerly CS, now math) and I've been
>> reading this list since the beginning of the STEPS project: this is
>> one of the most promising things I'm aware of going on in  computing
>> right now. (I'm a big fan of Haskell's rising popularity, although
>> it's more of a case of gradual improvement, building on the traditions
>> of Lisp and ML etc..) Still, I'm puzzled how I've never seen anyone
>> here mention the "other" famously compact, dynamic, self-contained
>> system: Forth. There's been a recent resurgence of interest in stack
>> languages, mostly around Slava Pestov's Factor
>> (http://factorcode.org), which seems to me to share many themes with
>> the STEPS/FoNC work, although it's certainly more pragmatic in
>> orientation and less earth-shaking. Does anyone here have any
>> experience with Forth or Factor that they'd care to comment on?
>>
>> Here's a Google Tech Talks video of Pestov introducing Factor:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_0QlhYlS8g
>>
>> - Max OrHai
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