Hi,
On 24/08/2011, at 5:36 PM, BGB wrote:
> ok, yeah, this is a little awkward, as my way of seeing things I think tends
> to be a little more "here and now", like the "pink plane" in the video linked
> to with Alan talking about things (started trying to write a response about
> this video before, but came to the opinion that my response was lame, so
> didn't bother sending it, but it was still an interesting video).
The pink plane is a plane of understanding as far as I'm aware. As in, pink
thoughts are thoughts that are qualitatively different (ie in a different
dimension) from the every day run of the mill "ordinary" blue plane thoughts.
Perhaps I've misunderstood this idea. I don't specifically know what you're
talking about, but pink plane vs blue plane - I'm fairly sure - is the same
idea that I'm referencing (it is, after all, in the VPRI logo).
If you were talking about gaming engines that managed to allow you to build
entirely new worlds in a fundamental way (ie platforms or worlds), this would
indubitably be the domain of this work, IMHO.
The pink plane isn't really about here and now aside from the fact that the
understanding has to occur here and now in order for the "future" to
manifest... like a flash of understanding - it never comes out of some
mechanistic or inevitably mechanical process. It usually comes from a combining
of things from other domains to allow a flash-understanding that was not
previously possible given the "meanderings" one had had before.
For example, the idea of simply building a cruft-free "everything in its place"
base level operating system and object system using the "obvious" choice of
mathematics as the base language... the idea of - rather than fight the
programming language "wars" - embracing ALL languages as possible and valid
(because it's more real), and continuing along that path - and seeing where it
takes us... of experimenting with very powerful ideas... and finding out just
what is possible... how far these ideas can take us... THIS is the domain of
the FONC project, IMHO.
> so, one could instead deal with more conceptual/hypothetical matters like,
> say, "what if I had a microchip in my hat that allowed be to watch youtube
> videos while still looking like I was watching the teacher?..." well, maybe,
> never-mind the ethical question of trying to look like one is paying
> attention when really they are watching "teh ponies" or reading posts on
> 4chan or similar, vs the more honest option of just pulling out a laptop and
> headphones, or trying to pay attention.
Erm, no this is not "right", not as far as I'm aware. FUNDAMENTALS/FOUNDATIONS
is an important idea here.
Julian.
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