On 12/22/2012 9:11 PM, Julian Leviston wrote:
I think you've missed the point.
The point is... you need to use your body and your emotions as well as
your mind. Our society is overly focussed on the mind.
could be, fair enough...
emotions are hard though, like nearly completely absent at one moment,
or showing up and being distracting at another moment, and generally not
very easy to make much sense out of them. but, I guess, if ignored too
much they can start to fade away altogether. but, if not controlled,
they can make a mess of things, leading to poor judgement and irrational
behavior, but most often when emotions do show up, they are like "I am
bored and lonely, and this kind of sucks", which isn't really all that
helpful. in other cases, they might show up, cause a sense of sadness,
and erode ones' ability to do stuff, which also isn't really helpful.
for most things in life, it doesn't seem to make much difference, but
does apparently have a bit of a dampening effect in the relationship
sense, like no one is really interested, which probably doesn't help
matters all that much (and it doesn't help much when one can know with
statistical near certainty that it wont go anywhere, most often because
there is some critical incompatibility, or more often, the other person
has only a short period of time before they lose interest and go elsewhere).
most else is the short of short-lived emotional states which arise from
watching TV shows or similar, but, when the show ends, everything is as
it was before.
nevermind things like poetry or similar, which are more just confusing
and cryptic than anything else ("what does it mean? who knows? wait, it
was about drinking coffee? oh well, whatever...").
even for as ineffective as it ultimately is, a person can still get a
lot more of an effect by watching a pile of anime or similar (say, a
person can get ~ 75 hours of emotional stimulation by watching ~ 150
episodes of InuYasha, then be looked down on by others for doing so, or
similar...).
and, sometimes, there are good shows, some of which a person can wish
there were more of (like, say, "Invader Zim"), but then again, there are
always new shows (like "MLP: FiM"...).
and elsewhere, there are videos on YouTube, like all the endless
"Gangnam Style" parodies.
otherwise, a person is left to realize that their life is kind of empty
and unproductive, and seemingly all their emotions can really seem to do
is remind them about how lame their life is (and there isn't even really
much to want, like say, there is no real way to build a newer/better
computer without dumping lots of money into overly expensive parts, and
better is trying to find a way to earn some sort of income...).
but, even as such, it is hard to imagine though if/how it could be any
different.
in a way, such is life...
but, at least I am sort of making a game, and putting some videos of it
on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRVaCPgVxb8
and, a video about some of the high-level architecture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlamKh8vUJ0
nevermind if it amounts to anything much more than this (hardly anyone
cares, no one makes donations).
but, keeping going is still better than falling into despair, even if
everything does eventually all amount to nothing.
or such...
Julian
On 23/12/2012, at 1:52 PM, BGB <[email protected]
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On 12/22/2012 5:52 PM, Julian Leviston wrote:
Thank you, captain obvious.
Man is a three-centered (three-brained if you will) being. Focussing
on only one of the brains is by definition imbalanced.
Bring back the renaissance man.
so, if, say, a person likes computers, but largely lacks either an
emotional or creative side, is this implying that computers somehow
took away their emotions and creativity, or is it more likely the
case that they didn't really have them to begin with?...
like, a person after a while, observing that they rarely feel much of
anything, no longer have much of any real sense of romantic interest,
have little intrinsic creative motivation, are unable to understand
symbolism, tend to see the world in a literal manner, ...
and, then wonder: "so it is? what now?..."
doesn't really seem like it is the computer's fault anymore than a
person also noting that they are also partially color-blind.
unless I have missed the point?...
a more obvious downside though is that generally, doing lots of stuff
on a computer keeps the user nailed down to their chair. even though
they might realize that getting up and doing stuff might be better
for their health, doing so is time away from working on stuff...
I guess a mystery then would be if, some time in the future, there
will be ways of using computers which don't effectively require the
users to be sitting in a chair all day (ideally without compromising
either the user experience or capabilities). (granted, yes,
traditional exercise can be tiring/unpleasant though...).
as for the mentioned practice, it seems like it could conflict with a
persons' religious beliefs (many people consider these types of
things as being occult).
more often a person might do something like memory-verses or similar
instead (like, memorize and recite John 3:16 or similar, ...).
or such...
Julian
On 23/12/2012, at 4:28 AM, John Pratt <[email protected]
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I want to tell everyone on this list about something I found.
Maybe someone out there hears what I say, thinks I am pretty
crazy for saying it to an entire mailing list, but appreciates it.
That is the kind of person I am sometimes. I might tell a CEO
not to use high-class mustard on a hotdog and genuinely wonder
afterwards
why he gets angry. So, similarly, I am going to tell all of you to
go to FalunDafa.org <http://falundafa.org/> because this is the
best thing I have done
to extricate myself cognitively from computer prison that we
all live in.
It is true that computers are impressive, but they are also injurious
in other respects and if people won't acknowledge the downsides
to what they do to our cognition, I don't think that is ok, either.
I am
actually a generalist on this subject, so I don't take technical
stances
on this minor subject or that minor subject inside the vast field of
computer science. But what holds true for me also holds true for you,
that computers draw you in to a certain, narrow type of thinking that
needs to be balanced by true, traditional, /human/ things like
music or dance or art.
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