Oops! I didn't mean to reply to FOP-list but to the sender only. Sorry for the noise.
B. > -----Original Message----- > From: MAISONNY Benoit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 22 November 2002 10:08 > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [Wyonacms-users] XOpus > > > Hi, > > If they want their product to be noticed by the Open Source > community, maybe they could begin by adding an entry for it > on http://www.freshmeat.net. I believe this is a primary > source for finding such software. I have been looking for > such wysiwyg XML editor in the last few months and never found Xopus. > > It seems the source is not available on their web site. If > you want to save this project from commercial vampires, just > get the source (check the license first, of course) and put > it on sourceforge or some other developer community web site. > Maybe some people will adopt it and continue development on a > forked project. > > I haven't looked in details into Xopus, but it looks like a > clone (feature-wise) of Bitflux. I think they'd be better off > joining forces. > > I hope this helps, > Benoit > (speaking on behalf of myself only) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Thorsten Scherler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 21 November 2002 18:38 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > security-dev@xml.apache.org; cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org; > > cocoon-users@xml.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [Wyonacms-users] XOpus > > > > > > This is an open appeal to the XML Open Source Community. > > Please support > > this appeal to keep an Open Source Project alive! How can > we keep the > > following project Open Source? Please post this message to > people who > > may help! > > > > "Xopus is a browser based in-place wysiwyg XML editor. Xopus allows > > users to edit their XML data in an intuitive word processor > > alike way." > > http://xopus.org/index.jsp > > > > The following notice is on the above mentioned page. (my > > comments) are > > in the brackets. > > > > > > Hello groups, hello Laurens van den Oever, Sjoerd Visscher, > > Lon Boonen! > > > > Here is the notice of Q42: > > > > Hi all, > > > > Today we made a decision concerning the Open Source future of Xopus. > > > > Originally, the Open Source project was intended to be our > > marketing. We > > hoped for huge exposure and many new projects and funding. > > > > (How long are you open source now? Since August/September? > I think it > > will take a while to spread the word. I talked to many people > > that are > > thinking to use Xopus and support the project, but it takes > > some time to > > really get in to it.) > > > > And of course to change the world for the better. > > > > (Would be if you stay Open Source! Your Editor is one good piece of > > work! I really like it! If we spread the word into the cocoon > > community > > I think you will get more support and projects) > > > > We indeed got a lot of positive feedback, a few > contributions (thanks > > guys!), but no projects nor funding. > > > > The only serious leads and paying customers so far haven't found us > > through the Open Source community. Most of them don't like the Open > > Source idea all together. > > > > (That's to bad. But part of the idea is as well that the user will > > develop the software because the know best want they want. I > > think your > > client will understand that they will profite of the work > of the Open > > Source Community. They have ideas, spirit and a powerful community.) > > > > Building the ideal XML editor, our goal, turned out to be > > somewhat more > > ambitious than we estimated. > > We have made a huge investment building this product and > > can't continue > > to deliver free software without revenues. > > > > (If some organisation listen: There is a Xopus Version for > sale that > > have this * Advanced features: > > o Complex pipeline resolving > > o Richtext editors > > o Table editing > > o Lookup editors > > o Animations > > o Fast-pace editing (allows fast-keyboard-typing while xml > nodes are > > created automatically according to the schema) > > o Date editors > > o Integer editors > > o Enumeration editors) > > > > Therefore we have been forced to the conclusion that we will > > not release > > new Xopus versions to the Open Source community as long as we > > don't find > > serious paid projects or funding. > > > > (The product is really awesome try it out @ > > http://xopus.org/index.jsp?menu=demo) > > > > We hope we will be able to return to the Open Source > development soon. > > > > Thanks for your support and "we apologize for the inconvenience" > > (THHGTTG IV), > > ************************************************************** > > ********** > > > > What can we do? > > > > King Regards > > > > Thorsten Scherler > > (by the way I am not with Q42, I am using the Open Source > > Product with > > wyona-cms (http://www.wyona.org/) and I like it very much. > All cocoon > > user can integrate that editor in they applications! Online > > editing of > > XML - Kick's ass!) > > > > > > Alex McLintock wrote: > > > Oh dear. It looks like XOpus isn't going to be open source, > > after all. > > > > > > http://xopus.org/index.jsp > > > > > > Hmmmm. I can't really argue with their reasoning. I am > pushing Open > > > Source to the business community - and not getting enough > > revenue to > > > make it worthwhile either. > > > > > > Comments? > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Openweb Analysts Ltd, London. > > > Software For Complex Websites http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ > > > Open Source Software Companies please register here > > > http://www.OWAL.co.uk/oss_support/ > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > WyonaCMS-users mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://mail.wyona.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wyonacms-users > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ____ > > This message and any files transmitted with it are legally > privileged and intended for the sole use of the individual(s) > or entity to whom they are addressed. 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