In the screenie, I don't see the 'Administer' menu which today lives
visually distinct on the right hand side from the non-superuser items. In
this new nav, where would that live?

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Roxanne Hoover <[email protected]> wrote:

> I understand, it's certainly worth looking at an alternative position in
> the masthead.
>
> On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 9:49:39 AM UTC-5, ohadlevy wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Roxanne Hoover <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Are you concerned about the priority or it being in the vertical nav?
>>>
>> I guess both, in a way, its a context you "log into" vs an action you
>> take, so i feel its similar to how you switch accounts in gmail for example.
>>
>>>
>>> I think there is room to have it located elsewhere. In patternfly the
>>> top right hand mast head area allows for additional items.
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 9:40:41 AM UTC-5, ohadlevy wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Roxanne Hoover <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> After some reviews with the visual team. I've made some changes to the
>>>>> color scheme. The Foreman masthead will remains the same, but I've updated
>>>>> the remaining colors to the default patternfly colorscheme. I believe this
>>>>> will be better for color-blindness and overall longterm visual engagement.
>>>>> I met with a user recently who was color-blind - which prompted me to make
>>>>> some updates. Any feedback welcomed!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I see you've folded the org switcher as the main top level entry, is
>>>> there another place we could put this context switcher instead ?
>>>>
>>>> thanks!
>>>> Ohad
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 10:14:14 AM UTC-5, Roxanne Hoover
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Walden, Yes! The Patternfly vertical nav does have a collapsible
>>>>>> feature. If you read the design notes, secondary and tertiary levels can 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> "pinned" to the left. There is also a version I have seen which is icon
>>>>>> only however I'm not seeing the documentation at the moment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also agree with your statement on full width. Reducing the
>>>>>> margin/padding will make better use of the space for responsive purposes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 10:55:51 AM UTC-5, Walden Raines
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > is there an assumption we should move to full width with this
>>>>>>> change?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I personally was making that assumption based on the screen in the
>>>>>>> patternfly vertical navigation documentation [1] and I support using a
>>>>>>> container that is very close to full width (i.e. you'll still want some
>>>>>>> padding so you can easily tell that things aren't appearing off screen).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Walden
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] http://www.patternfly.org/pattern-library/navigation/vertica
>>>>>>> l-navigation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Ohad Levy" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: "Foreman" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 9:05:42 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [foreman-dev] Vertical Navigation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Walden Raines <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > +1 I'm a fan of switching to a vertical navigation but I do have
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> > question.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Is there a pattern for being able to collapse the vertical
>>>>>>> navigation?  At
>>>>>>> > times you don't need the navigation at all and it takes up roughly
>>>>>>> 1/6th of
>>>>>>> > the screen (as opposed to roughtly 1/10th with the current
>>>>>>> horizontal
>>>>>>> > navigation) so it would be nice if it could be minimized to the
>>>>>>> side until
>>>>>>> > needed.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is there an assumption we should move to full width with this
>>>>>>> change?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>>> Ohad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>>> > Walden
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> > From: "Roxanne Hoover" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> > To: "foreman-dev" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:24:06 AM
>>>>>>> > Subject: [foreman-dev] Vertical Navigation
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Changing Direction...
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > When the UXD team was tasked with identifying UI improvements for
>>>>>>> Foreman
>>>>>>> > one of the major improvements we could see was with the
>>>>>>> navigation.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > As it stands now, Foreman uses the Horizontal Navigation Pattern
>>>>>>> > <http://www.patternfly.org/pattern-library/navigation/
>>>>>>> > horizontal-navigation/#_>
>>>>>>> > found in PatternFly (see example below).
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Our reasons for improving the current UI include better
>>>>>>> adaptability for
>>>>>>> > additional menu items and a friendlier responsive design layout.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > As you can see from the below screen, the current menu does not
>>>>>>> react well
>>>>>>> > to screen constraints, dropping menu items onto a second line.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > There are some notes worth addressing when contemplating moving
>>>>>>> towards a
>>>>>>> > vertical nav from a user experience perspective.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Firstly, though vertical nav supports a tertiary level, currently
>>>>>>> no nav
>>>>>>> > item is in need of it. It’s nice to know it’s available if
>>>>>>> desired.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Secondly, the current vertical nav is at its best when nav items
>>>>>>> are given
>>>>>>> > groupings and titles for those groups. The current horizontal nav
>>>>>>> > inconsistently groups items. Possible solutions could be to
>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>> > groupings alternatively you could leave them as is. In the below
>>>>>>> mockup we
>>>>>>> > can see a secondary nav that has one untitled grouping and three
>>>>>>> titled
>>>>>>> > groupings (In Bold - Provisioning Setup, Templates, Compliance).
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Additional information about the vertical nav and its
>>>>>>> functionality can be
>>>>>>> > found on the PatternFly blog
>>>>>>> > <https://blog.patternfly.org/vertical-navigation-finding-your-way/>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > An additional note: the idea of a vertical nav was based on our
>>>>>>> perspective
>>>>>>> > from a user experience team. I know that there will also be
>>>>>>> additional
>>>>>>> > considerations from a technical perspective. I’m looking forward
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> > everyone's feedback.
>>>>>>> >
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