sorry for typo, it should have been:

AFAIK we don't *have* the solution *implemented* atm.

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Marek

On čtvrtek 25. května 2017 11:49:24 CEST Marek Hulán wrote:
> Sorry for being late to the party, sending my 2c:
> 
> I agree with having more complicated solution where users could have
> separate proxies per service is good long-term goal. AFAIK we don't the
> solution atm. Therefore I think introducing support for single, global
> proxy sounds as improvement already to what we have now (nothing). What's
> good on this, migrating to specific proxies should be easy, the RFC
> explicitly[1] mentions it. The global proxy can have granular rules of what
> communication should be passed through untouched and what should be sent
> through maybe other proxies. Another advantage I see is that the global
> proxy offloads the configuration from Foreman/Katello, which does not
> really belongs into our domain.
> 
> Later, when the RFC is implemented via foreman_http_proxies plugin, I'm
> happy to stop using global proxy and improve plugins to use
> foreman_http_proxies if it makes sense. It will take some time before
> everyone adopts it. But meanwhile we'd still have the option to let user
> configure their master proxy according to their needs.
> 
> [1] https://github.com/theforeman/rfcs/pull/18/
> files#diff-12584a6580dac145ae55c2b5d67088dfR45
> 
> --
> Marek
> 
> On středa 17. května 2017 14:22:28 CEST Justin Sherrill wrote:
> > On 05/17/2017 07:57 AM, Tom McKay wrote:
> > > After reading the RFC I think that more robust and adaptable solution
> > > would be better. A single env var is not going to cover the needs of
> > > all the scenarios. A simple example may be accessing both
> > > registry.access.redhat.com <http://registry.access.redhat.com>
> > > (through proxy) and myopenshift:5000 (no proxy).
> > > 
> > > As @jlsherrill noted on the PR, the temporary solution for the
> > > foreman-docker plugin is alright for the moment.
> > 
> > I'd like to echo what tom said, we've had many users that want to access
> > content externally through a proxy and internally (where the proxy is
> > not controlled by them and does not properly proxy internal requests).
> > Its happened enough for me to say that a simple solution is not good
> > enough long term.
> > 
> > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:08 AM, Sebastian Gräßl
> > > 
> > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > >     There was some feedback regarding this on the PR[1] mentioned in
> > >     the beginning.
> > >     There is already a RFC[2] regarding this and a plugin[3] to
> > >     implement the solution proposed in the RFC.
> > >     
> > >     The solution proposed by jlsherrill allows to add multiple
> > >     HTTP-proxies in Foreman and use these in plugins and allow to
> > >     configure what HTTP-proxy should be used for what requests.
> > >     So far the plugin only adds the ability to add HTTP proxies and
> > >     misses a essential part, which is applying the HTTP proxies to
> > >     requests.
> > >     
> > >     While looking at how other applications handle this and also
> > >     considering typical HTTP proxy configurations, it feels that such
> > >     a solution would make it rather complex in practice to apply.
> > >     Configuring rules for requests or just ensuring the proper request
> > >     is using the right HTTP proxy is better configurable in the HTTP
> > >     proxy itself.
> > >     
> > >     I believe a very bold simple solution would be the better, which
> > >     in my opinion would be to ensure all parts respect a HTTP proxy
> > >     configuration and have good documentation around it to advice on
> > >     how to configure the HTTP proxy correctly. Taken other
> > >     applications in the same area the HTTP_PROXY environment variable
> > >     seems to be the common standard to use.
> > >     
> > >     Please, I would love to hear more feedback on this and what are
> > >     common HTTP proxy setups.
> > >     
> > >     [1] https://github.com/theforeman/foreman-docker/pull/189
> > >     <https://github.com/theforeman/foreman-docker/pull/189>
> > >     [2] https://github.com/theforeman/rfcs/pull/18
> > >     <https://github.com/theforeman/rfcs/pull/18>
> > >     [3] https://github.com/jlsherrill/foreman_http_proxies
> > >     <https://github.com/jlsherrill/foreman_http_proxies>
> > >     
> > >     On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 1:07:33 PM UTC+2, Sebastian Gräßl
> > >     
> > >     wrote:
> > >         Hej,
> > >         
> > >         at the moment there is a PR[1] open on foreman-docker to set a
> > >         HTTP proxy for requests to registries.
> > >         The PR allows to set a HTTP proxy on the HTTP client, in this
> > >         case deep down Excon, only for registry requests.
> > >         
> > >         A HTTP proxy won't be set on requests if a `HTTP_PROXY`
> > >         environment variable is available, since it is an unlikely
> > >         setup to have registry request routed over a different proxy
> > >         than other requests. However setting it via the environment
> > >         variable will allow requests to succeed to resources available
> > >         by the HTTP proxy, but will fail for those inside and possible
> > >         blocked.
> > >         
> > >         The `HTTP_PROXY` environment variable seems to be a standard,
> > >         and therefore Excon is built to use it when available.
> > >         Excon is used by docker-api as well as fog, it might be used
> > >         by other components and there might be other parts that use
> > >         another HTTP client like RestClient, which also respects the
> > >         variable.
> > >         
> > >         This means at the moment with that environment variable set
> > >         some requests would already rely on it.
> > >         In any case this should be in mentioned in the manual to be
> > >         aware of, also because some operating systems set this globally.
> > >         
> > >         The question is should we make an afford to ensure deployment
> > >         behind a HTTP proxy on a system with HTTP blocked works
> > >         without issues and provide a way to configure it properly?
> > >         
> > >         I've tested Foreman with HTTP blocked and `HTTP_PROXY` set,
> > >         but in a very basic setup, with the only external requests
> > >         being to Docker registries outside and squid configured to
> > >         just pass requests through regardless there to.
> > >         
> > >         It didn't show any apparent issue, but there are for sure
> > >         issues with a more robust configured HTTP proxy.
> > >         This raises another question: How common is a setup where
> > >         external resources requiring HTTP are used with Foreman behind
> > >         a HTTP proxy?
> > >         
> > >         Comments?
> > >         
> > >         All the best,
> > >         Sebastian
> > >         
> > >         [1] https://github.com/theforeman/foreman-docker/pull/189
> > >         <https://github.com/theforeman/foreman-docker/pull/189>


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