Am 28.08.17 um 17:12 schrieb Marek Hulán:
1) codeclimate is red

This can be ignored, we never agreed on using this as a hard metric for the
PR. The motivation to introduce it was mainly to save some time to reviewer.
We don't have to run it manually to get indications whether there's something
introducing a big complexity [1]. From my experience it sometimes leads to
worse code, since author splits the logic into more methods to lower e.g.
cyclomatic complexity but it should be judged separately in every case.
+1
I like it as a suggestion, but sometimes it's just off and better be ignored.

2) foreman is red

This can happen because of intermittent tests failures. If the PR is clearly
not causing new ones and commiter is aware of this error, the PR is merged
with message like "test unrelated" comments. If we are not sure, we retrigger
the run,

If Foreman develop branch is broken, we need to merge the PR to fix it so this
is another exception. Usually we trigger the jenkins job manually first to see
that the PR fixes the issue.
+1
Yes, don't merge a PR with failing Foreman core tests.

3) katello is red

If katello becomes red only for this PR, we analyze what causes it. Usually it
means that we change some internal things that have impact on Katello. In such
case, we're doing our best to send a fixing PR to Katello or we ping someone
with better knowledge in this area. We don't merge the PR until it's resolved,
then usually we merge both parts at the same time.
I think, this is totally unfair to all the "smaller" plugin maintainers and that's why I vote for removing the test completely or just keep it to test our public APIs.
I believe, we should do the following:
If the Foreman PR breaks some public API, e.g. facets, and the Katello tests show that, my suggestion is to fix the foreman PR to not break the public API and add proper depreciations if possible. If we change something inside Foreman - in the past we changed the host multiple actions from GET to POST or introduced strong parameters for example - the contributor or maintainer should send a mail to foreman-dev expaining what needs to be changed in plugins. I think it's also a good idea to fix the example plugin or the How to create a plugin wiki page if applicable. However I think, it's the plugin maintainer's responsibility to make sure his plugin works with Foreman. Everything else doesn't scale. In the past a lot of "my" plugins broke because of changes to Foreman core. Nobody cared to send a PR so far. But that's fine. I don't expect anybody to. It's my job to test the plugin and fix it if it breaks. I think, we should not block Foreman PRs because an additional parameter was added to some internal method, just because Katello happens to overwrite that method. It just doesn't make any sense to me why we should do that for Katello but not for all the other plugins out there. This is not against Katello, it's just the only plugin tested with Foreman core right now. Currently, we're developing a plugin to show system logfiles in Foreman. That requires a complete ELK-stack for development. I would not expect every developer to have that at hand. If we leave Katello in the matrix, I think it would be totally fair to also add our new plugin to Foreman's test matrix as well. But I wouldn't want to block Foreman development just because some test in that plugin breaks. I know, Katello is important for RedHat and it's one of the larger plugins. But that doesn't justify a special role in my opinion.
If it turns out there are more PRs that are failing with same errors, we merge
PRs if we're sure they don't introduce new Katello failures. At this time,
we're not blocking merges until Katello is green again. (*) here the
suggestion applies

4) upgrade is red

this is very similar to katello job, if there's some issue in upgrade, we
should not merge the PR. I remember though, there was a time when we knew the
job is broken which fall under "known to be broken" category.
+1, if upgrade is broken the PR is broken.

5) There's no 5, all the rest must be green. Sometimes hound service does not
respond and remains in "running" state, then it's retriggered by the reviewer.
prprocessor and travis must always be happy.
Don't get me started on hound. But it's the best we have right now, so generally speaking: Yes: Linting is important. If there are lint warnings, we shouldn't merge the PR.

Now the promised suggestion. When we see katello/upgrade job is broken on
multiple PRs, the first reviewer who spots it should notify the rest of
developers about "from now on, we ignore tests XY". The ideal channel seems to
be this list. This helps Katello devs to find out when it started, what were
the commits that first induced it.

[1] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/foreman-dev/p7ESagXwNwk

Thanks for comments

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Marek

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