@solefarmer:

It's been a while since forensics were my daily grind, but I have some 
thoughts...

Are you a member of the subject's organization?  i.e.  same company or agency?

If so, your best immediate approach may be going over the wire with AccessData 
Enterprise (ftk) or a similar tool.

        * Cost justification: It's happened once, it'll happen again.  Once the 
agent is installed, the subject is available 24x7.

        * Court explanation:  AccessData installs an agent that reads the 
drive.  It is its sole function, and
                                    cannot be used to move files onto the 
target.

        * MD5 hash option:    If it were me, I wouldn't use that as a 
foundation for testimony.  In order to get
                                  a file MD5, you have to touch it - right?  
That is harder to explain away than a
                                  remote agent imaging the entire drive.

If you're not part of the subject's organization, or cannot influence purchase 
of a network tool, it will depend on expanding that time window.  Fire drill?  
Trouble ticket?  "Audit" all laptops in the dept in the Help Desk back room?  
Have the boss invite the whole gang to a long lunch?

Shannon

Disclaimer:   The opinions and view expressed are solely those of the sender.  
The sender's organization makes no claim as to accuracy, efficacy or 
reliability.

-----Original Message-----
From: listbou...@securityfocus.com [mailto:listbou...@securityfocus.com] On 
Behalf Of solefar...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:14 AM
To: forensics@securityfocus.com
Subject: P2V - Live Forensics

Ladies, Gentlemen, and otherwise:



I have a situation whereby I need to obtain an image of an individual's laptop 
suitable for potential prosecution in a US court; however, I only have a 
limited window in which to grab the image, and was looking for alternatives in 
order to not "spook" the poor guy or his co-workers who would no doubt tell him 
about me, as I go into his office and randomly image his drive! 





I thought about using P2V (Physical to Virtual), but realize that such software 
does make some steps to alter the system and thus may have court challenges. Is 
there possibility such could be explained in court, or perhaps md5 hash of his 
files(not the disk image) taken while online and then compared to a virtual 
image of sorts. 



Please advise, and I'm thinking of sending the winning submission a beer or two 
or some other minor token of appreciation.








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