Now that we have all had a few days to digest this, lets get down to
business.  I have created a wiki page outlining the process and
listing the objectives for 2.5 in a table of FITS issues.

https://wiki.foresightlinux.org/display/DEV/Foresight+2.5+Release+Roadmap

Please look over it, if you have other objectives you would like to
add, please file issues assigning the fix version to 2.5.  That will
make them show up in the table on the wiki page.  I am setting a
deadline of Wednesday, Nov 19 1200 UTC.  To find the time in UTC, run
'date -u'.

Please get your submissions in!  We will quickly review the
submissions and update the issues to reflect fix version.  I want to
start the planning stages pretty quickly after the deadline, gathering
requirements and designing the solutions.  Please include as much
detail as possible in the issues, and please review the issues we
already have adding comments.  The more information the better.

Thanks!
--Ken

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Kevin Harriss
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Drew Kelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I think the 1-2 month sprints will help keep Foresight Linux fresh in
>> peoples minds who have never used it. They will see that the distro is
>> always getting the latest and greatest packages.
>> And if you think about it is a free/easy marketing.
>
>
> I completely agree that this will help serve as easy marketing.  The other
> benefit of this system is that the release notes and marketing materials for
> the release can be built during the cycle since we will know most of the new
> features at the start of the sprint.
>
>
>>
>>
>> I cant wait to see the enhancements in packagekit and the livecd. I think
>> that both of these will really help are userbase.
>>
>
> There is currently work be done to improve packageKit which I also look
> forward to seeing completed.
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Ken VanDine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Kevin Harriss
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Ken VanDine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Foresight Linux release planning
>> > >>
>> > >> The road to Foresight 2.5 includes you!  Historically we have not
>> > >> provided the level of transparency needed to enable more people to
>> > >> participate in Foresight's core development.  I am very excited about
>> > >> the packagers that have joined in to help, but I suspect them and
>> > >> others have trouble figuring out what is needed.  They have done a
>> > >> great job of packaging new applications and helping to grow our
>> > >> repositories, and we appreciate that.  However, Antonio (doniphon) and
>> > >> I do most of the distro work, and that is our fault.  We tend to have
>> > >> a good understanding of what needs to be done, and we just do it.
>> > >> This leaves others either not knowing what they can help with, or
>> > >> feeling like they might step on our toes.
>> > >
>> > > I completely agree and this is one reason why most of my contributions
>> > have
>> > > been with marketing and packaging.  I was unaware of what needed to be
>> > > worked on and who was working on what tasks.
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> So what do we need to do?  Log all issues we are working on, or plan
>> > >> to work on in FITS (Foresight Issue Tracking System) and continually
>> > >> log our progress on tasks.  Not only does this provides us a high
>> > >> level view of where we are, and what needs to be done, but it also
>> > >> provides a wider audience a list of tasks they can step up and
>> > >> accomplish.
>> > >
>> > > I think this a great idea and we will finally be taking full advantage
>> of
>> > > FITS.  I will start to do the same with the marketing section of FITS
>> so
>> > > that we can have this nice level of transparency through out the
>> project.
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> We are going with short 1-2 month sprints instead of long 6 month
>> > >> development cycles.  During these sprints we will continually push
>> > >> features into mainline, continually delivering innovation.
>> > >
>> > > Will features be introduced as they are completed or at the end of the
>> > > sprint?
>> >
>> > As they are completed, I do want to stick with the our rolling nature.
>> >
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >>    * Sprint Kick off/planning cycle
>> > >>          o A larger meeting to discuss major objectives for the sprint
>> > >>                + Break it down into the top level objectives and
>> > >> create issues for them in FITS
>> > >>                + Hopefully find a driver for each top level objective
>> > >
>> > > When do we want to have this larger meeting and how will this be held.
>> >  Are
>> > > the top level drivers the same as the mentors?
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >>          o Organize smaller planning discussions, ideally done via
>> FITS
>> > >>                + Break down the top level objective into smaller
>> issues
>> > in
>> > >> FITS
>> > >>                + Document requirements of success for each objective
>> > >>                + Assign a mentor
>> > >>                + Assign a due date.
>> > >>                + Create Use Cases for testing
>> > >
>> > > I request that if you do any planning discussion outside of FITS
>> (email,
>> > > irc, in person, etc) you translate it as a comment in the FITS Issue.
>> >  This
>> > > would allow more people to help add insight into an issue.
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >>    * Tracking and status reporting
>> > >>          o Each assignee will continue to update the progress of tasks
>> > via
>> > >> FITS
>> > >>          o Regular blogging of your progress on your piece of the
>> > >> road map, lets make this fun!
>> > >>          o Weekly status reports
>> > >
>> > > If you are getting busy with real life (work, family, friends, etc)
>> > please
>> > > let someone know.  It is completely understandable for those things to
>> > come
>> > > up and by you report this it lets other people step up and help out
>> while
>> > > you are busy.
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >>    * Mentoring
>> > >>          o We should have some more experienced people available to
>> > >> act as mentors.
>> > >>          o Sounding board for ideas
>> > >>          o Contribute to and approve designs
>> > >>          o Help define measurement for success
>> > >>          o Review/approve completed tasks before pushing to mainline
>> > >
>> > > I am willing to help mentor anyone that wants to work on task regarding
>> > > marketing, artwork or the website.
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> The key for success is maximum transparency, this means using FITS and
>> > >> the foresight-devel mailing list as much as possible. If you would
>> > >> like to participate, please send an email to our development mailing
>> > >> list. You can find information on the lists at
>> > >> http://www.foresightlinux.org/contribute.html
>> > >>
>> > >> For a list of objectives we are already thinking of for Foresight 2.5,
>> > >> check out this list
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://issues.foresightlinux.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=10000&resolution=-1&fixfor=10053&sorter/field=priority&sorter/order=DESC
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Ken VanDine
>> > >> http://ken.vandine.org
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>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
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>> > > Kevin Harriss
>> > > http://www.foresightlinux.org
>> > >
>> >
>> >
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