[Comunidad Flexográfica] RE: Resumen de foros, Vol 290, Envío 23

foros Thu, 22 Dec 2005 03:56:11 -0800

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ok fernando revisa en cuantos colores se desregistra, puede ser engranajes, las puntas de los rodillo son muy importantes ya que se pueden jorobar, tambien los rodamientos y/o bocinas que usas ya que tambien pueden producir este problema, pero antes de hacer cualquier cosa haz una prueba de montaje simulando en la montadora la impresion a ver que pasa, con repecto al fantasma incrementa la velocidad de secado de las tintas agregando mas solventes pero te recomendaria que a medidas que puedas cambies de unidad los colores problematicos separandolos para asi tener mas oportunidad de secado entre ellos

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Como te sale la impresion en la montadora de portaclises??
si alli esta bien , debes tener un problema de rodillos o=20
ungranajes .

Solo te sucede con este juego de rodillos? o con todos=20
los trabajos de diferentes desarrollos ?

estas us! ando el sticy back adecuado ?
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en el cual lo estas usando en tu impresora ?

Tu dise=F1ador es nuevo ?
ts negativos comcuerdan con la figura impresa ?

AS

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ME HE FIJADO EN TODOS LOS PROBLEMAS QUE HABEIS PLANTEADOS Y HAN SIDO =
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UN SALUDO

FERNANDO

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Hola fijate que nosotros tambien tenemos ese mismo problema. Y hemos =
llegado a la conclusion que el problema lo tenemos en los cilindros =
porta! clisses, revisa el diametro de cada uno de ellos por que pueda que =
algunos hallan sufrido mas desgaste que otros, tambien revisa que la =
cinta adhesiva (stickyback) sea del mismo espesor en todas las unidades =
de impresion. Espero tus comentarios al respecto. Gratos saludos.

Bendiciones,
Daniel Fernandez
Dpto de Artes Digitales

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Me parece que no me han entendido mi problema es que dentro de un =
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registra bien la primera os mando un ejemplo en jpg para que lo veais.

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Si tus negativos registran correctamente y tus fotopolimeros=20
estan bien hechos , y ademas de eso te registra en el mismo=20
color una repeticion y la otra no , lo mas seguro es que=20
tengas problema con los engranajes o rodillos portaclises
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ser un problema mecanico adicional como ser que tengas=20
alguna de las bancadas de tus grupos de impresion desnivelada.
( Eso sucede con poca frecuencia pero suele pasar )

Espero que este breve! aporte te sirva .

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BUENO TENGO DOS PROBLEMAS Y UNA SOLUCION MARA TODOS

primero el problema:

esto va relacionado con los registros en etiquetas cuyo =
montaje son de varias piezas, el problema! esta que cuando se registra la =
primera figura va perfecta pero al imprimir la segunda que va en el =
mismo montaje sale un poco desregistrada mas o menos 0,5 mm lo =
suficiente como para que se vea movida dando una pesima calidad de =
registro.

En cuanto a las sombras fantasmas que solucion me podeis dar =
??.

lo siguiente es una solucion va sobre el secado de las tintas =
y evitar asi que cuando pase al siguiente cuerpo este demasiado humeda y =
no se imprima en condiciones pues la solucion ha sido a=C3f=B1adirle a =
las tintas un foto iniciador aumentando bastante el secado.

UN SALUDO

FERNANDO.

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Como te sale la impresion en la =
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portaclises??

si alli esta bien , debes tener un =
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de rodillos o

ungranajes .

Solo te sucede con este juego de =
rodillos? o con=20
todos

los trabajos de diferentes desarrollos=20
?

estas usando el sticy back adecuado =
?

Fue bien compesada en pre-! prensa =
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medida del arte para el desarrollo

en el cual lo estas usando en tu =
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?

Tu dise=F1ador es nuevo ?

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UN SALUDO

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Hola fijate que nosotros tambien tenemos ese mismo problema. =
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llegado a la conclusion que el problema lo tenemos en los cilindros=20
portaclisses, revisa el diametro de cada uno de ellos por que pueda =
que=20
algunos hallan sufrido mas desgaste que otros, tambien revisa que la =
cinta=20
adhesiva (stickyback) sea del mismo espesor en todas las unidades de =

impresion. Espero tus comentarios al respecto. Gratos=20
saludos.

Bendiciones,
Daniel Fernandez
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