> On Oct 22, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Steve Moyer <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I certainly understand the desire to support different back-ends, and so it's 
> probably also not wise to "pollute" the various Mgr classes with Entry 
> objects (via the callbacks).  I didn't realize that you weren't pulling all 
> the attributes, so both the getEntry() method and the callbacks on create, 
> update and delete aren't really useful.

Not necessarily, we’d add another (callback) for the first phase, to give 
caller chance to populate additional attributes, or I suppose it could be a 
property.

a. String[] getAdditonalAttrs();

or

b. myuserattrs = aaa,aab,abb,bbb,bbc,...

> 
> On Oct 22, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Steve Moyer <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> At one point we'd also talked about giving Fortress a SCIM interface.  I 
> think we should talk through this a bit more but my initial thought is that 
> the Fortress related Entry objects (in LDAP-speak) could be exposed as SCIM 
> extensions, but the implementor might want to implement their own SCIM 
> extensions, so the back-end would have to have a mechanism to allow CRUD on 
> those objects.  And so we're right back to the original topic of custom 
> object classes and attributes.

Yes this is where I want the discussion to go, i.e. there’s a larger concern 
here (IdM), w/ its applicable standards, that may provide guidance for us to 
follow.  

Which brings up one of my favorite soapboxes…  with security, standards are 
everything and it’s a disservice to our community when we invent new ways of 
doing the same old things.

Shawn

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