Dera Dan

The answer is that the normal closure of a subnormal nilpotent subgroup is nilpotent. Essentially is is Fitting's Theorem which says that the product of two nilpotent normal subgroups is nilpotent. Consider the chain K=K_1<K_2<\cdots <K_n=G for some K nilpotent and subnormal in G, where each K-_{i+1} is normal in K_{i+1}.

Note that K_2 contains the normal closure of K in K_3 but the normal closure of K in K_3 is the product of finite many K_3 conjugates of K all of which are normal in K_2. So the normal closure of K in K_3 is nilpotent by Fitting and note that we could replace K_2 by this normal closure and work our way up the chain, or use induction on the defect.

if we don't insist that the groups are finite you get locally nilpotence instead.

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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Dan Lanke wrote:

Dear GAP Forum,

I am trying to find an example of a finite group G with a subnormal nilpotent 
subgroup H such that the normal closure of H in G is not nilpotent. I am not
sure if such an example exists.  I used GAP to see that no such example
exists for |G| < 190. I run into memory problems with the computer for
larger groups. Any suggestions please?

Thanks,
DL


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