Dear Alexander,

thanks for the link again ! ( http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=281508.281540 )

Indeed it is not surprising that some features of GAP seem unusual.

Just let us forget GAP for a moment and think in general about one of my previous questions: What positive or negative implications for a language e.g. 'python' would have a silently failed action? Is it worthwhile and possible to change the behaviour of the language or not?



Best,


Jakob
( Яков )


P.S. I'm posting some observations which seems unusual to me promptly, because as soon as I get adopted to GAP I wouldn't even notice. In general some implications of (historically grown) functionality are not automatically 'useful' or 'unfavourable', e.g. the financial system is evolved over time but I hope you agree that it also has some serious problems.


Am 10.03.2012 19:30, schrieb Alexander Konovalov:
Dear Jakob,

On 9 Mar 2012, at 14:52, kroeker wrote:
...

there is no way to "lock" an operation, [..] it would also cause problems
Let for now assume that it is not necessary to lock operations. Then in my 
opinion a user should get at least a warning that locking is not possible when 
trying it.
By the way, It shouldn't be possible to lock existing read-only operations, so 
it is not obvious to me that locking an operation would cause problems a priori.
It also seems that other functionality in GAP has  similar behaviour which is 
unusual from my point of view:
actions fail without a warning, e.g. calling an attribute setter twice with 
different values (the second call has no effect)
GAP may be regarded as a problem-oriented language designed to be a platform 
for implementing mathematical (mostly discrete) algorithms, and it has rather 
unique object-oriented features invented to model mathematical objects: for 
example, objects that learn during their lifetime and change their type in the 
process, and dynamic polymorphism (that is, method selection based on current 
type of all arguments). So it's not surprising that from the beginning some of 
its features may seem unusual.

There is a paper "The GAP 4 type system: organising algebraic algorithms" by 
Steve Linton and Thomas Breuer in ISSAC'98 proceedings available here:

http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=281508.281540

which may give more details about the reasoning behind GAP design principles, 
in addition to the GAP manual.

Best wishes,
Alexander




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