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Document Number: T13/e01146r0
Date: 12 Dec 2001
Reply to: Pete McLean
To: Membership of T13
From: Mark Evans, Secretary of T13, and Pete McLean, Chair of T13
Subject: Minutes of 32nd T13 Working Group and Plenary Meetings at
Irvine, CA
December 11 - December 12, 2001
Agenda
1 Opening remarks 3
2 Approval of agenda 3
3 Membership and attendance 3
3.1 Membership 3
3.2 Fees 4
3.3 Attendance 4
4 Approval of the minutes from the previous T13 plenary meeting
(e01140r0) 4
5 Document distribution 4
6 Review of previous action items 5
7 Old business 5
7.1 ATA/ATAPI-5 Erratum (ANSI NCITS 340-2000 (erratum))
(e01122r1) [McLean] 5
7.2 ATA/ATAPI-6 project 1410-D 5
7.2.1 ATA/ATAPI-6 Letter ballot resolution (e01143r0)
[McLean] 5
7.2.2 ATA/ATAPI-6 Schedule Review 5
7.3 EDD - 2 project 1484-D [Stevens] 6
7.3.1 Draft review (d1484r1a) [Stevens] 6
7.4 ATA/ATAPI Host Adapter Standard project 1510D [Goodfellow]
6
7.4.1 Draft review (1510D r0c) [Goodfellow] 6
7.5 ATA/ATAPI-7 project 1532D 6
7.5.1 Format discussion 6
7.5.2 Proposal for command integrity checking (e00160r0)
[McLean] 6
7.5.3 Extended cable lengths (e00151r1) [Goodfellow] 6
7.5.4 Larger physical sector size (e01138r1) [Colegrove]
7
7.5.5 INTRQ assertion, negation, release, pull-up
(e01119r0) [Barras] 7
7.5.6 FLUSH CACHE command modification proposal (e01126r0)
[Noblitt] 7
7.5.7 Extensions to device self-test (e01137r0) [Bulik]
7
7.5.8 Selective self-test (e01139r0) [McLean] 8
7.5.9 Proposal for additions to ATA/ATAPI-7 for Ultra DMA
mode 6 (e01135r0) [Evans] 8
7.5.10 Schedule review 9
7.6 ATAPI Implementation Specification (e00150r0) [Goodfellow]
(formerly Consolidated ATAPI PACKET command set) 9
7.7 Proposal document format guideline (e01129r0) [Colegrove]
9
7.8 Improved error definition (Stevens) 9
7.9 Forced Unit Access [e011140r0] (Pan) 9
7.10 Unsolicited interrupts (Goodfellow) 9
7.11 T13 Reflector, FTP, and Web Site Setup 9
7.12 Open issues list 10
8 New Business 10
8.1 Comments on the proposal for selective self-test (e01147r0)
10
8.2 Reserved opcodes for Serial ATA (e01145r0) [McLean] 10
8.3 ATA Domain Validation [Hedrick] 10
8.4 Document numbers with no documents [Colegrove] 10
9 Liaison Reports 10
9.1 T10 10
9.2 SFF 10
9.3 IDEMA 10
10 Call for Patents 10
10.1 Convolve 11
11 Review of Action Items 11
12 Meeting Schedule 12
12.1 Authorization of ad hoc working groups 12
12.2 Long term meeting schedule 12
13 Adjournment 12
Results of the Meeting
1 Opening remarks
Pete McLean, the T13 Chair, called the meeting to order at 9:00 A.M. on
Tuesday, December 11, 2001. Pete thanked Darrin Bulik of Western Digital
for hosting the meeting.
As is customary, the people in attendance introduced themselves, and a copy
of the attendance list was circulated. Copies of the draft agenda were made
available to those in attendance.
The Chair briefly reviewed the meeting rules: T13 is a Technical Committee
of NCITS and operates under NCITS rules. Anyone with interest in the work
of the committee is free to attend and take part in discussions. However,
motions and votes are limited to member organizations, one vote per member
organization. In addition, the committee complies with NCITS antitrust
guidelines. As a result of this, discussions about unannounced products,
prices, volumes, vendor relations, etc., are prohibited. The Chair noted
that a set of Policies and Procedures for NCITS are available at the web
site at www.ncits.org site under the standing documents category as SD-2.
T13 operates under these revised policies and procedures augmented by the
T13 procedures at the T13 web site at www.t13.org.
The Chair reported on his attendance at the Annual NCITS Officers Symposium
and training. The NCITS Award for Effective Committee Management presented
to Gene Milligan in 2000 was renamed the Gene Milligan Effective Committee
Management Award and Gene's wife Beatrice attended the Symposium and
presented the award to this years recipient.
The two-thirds voting rule has been further clarified. For two-thirds
meeting votes, the majority requires more than half of the eligible voting
members attending the meeting less abstentions and at least a quorum. The
two thirds requires at least two-thirds of the eligible members voting less
abstentions. For letter ballots, the majority requires more than half of
the eligible voting members of the committee less abstentions since all
eligible members receive ballots.
2 Approval of agenda
The agenda as reflected in these minutes was approved unanimously.
3 Membership and attendance
The Chair reviewed the rules for membership and attendance:
3.1 Membership
An individual from an organization new to T13 must attend at least one T13
plenary meeting as an Advisory Member before requesting voting membership.
After that meeting, the representative may request membership from the T13
chair stating expertise and material interest in the scope of the committee
and pay the required fees to NCITS. Voting privileges begin upon receipt by
the NCITS Secretariat of applicable fees for the membership year.
3.2 Fees
Current NCITS memberships fees for Observer, Principal, or additional
Alternate are 800.00 USD. The First Alternate is free with a Principal
membership.
Mailings of committee documents are available to any interested party after
each plenary meeting. The cost for mailings for one year is 300.00 USD for
mailing in the USA and 400.00 USD for mailing to a location outside of the
USA.
The Chair reported that he had received notice from NCITS that the fees for
CY 2002 would be the same as the fees for CY 2001.
Persons with questions or requests regarding membership fees and/or
subscriptions for mailings should contact Monica Vago, Manager, ITI
Standards Operations, at 202-626-5739, send a fax to her at 202-638-4922, or
contact her by email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3.3 Attendance
In addition to payment of fees, there are also minimum attendance and
participation requirements to maintain voting membership status on T13. A
representative from a member organization must attend two of every three
plenary meetings and vote on at least every other letter ballot. If a
member organization fails to have a representative in attendance at two of
the last three T13 plenary meetings or vote on every other letter ballot,
they are warned that failing to attend the next T13 meeting or to vote on
the next letter ballot will result in their membership being terminated.
Attendance at a working group meeting does not affect voting membership
status in T13.
Two voting members were in jeopardy due to lack of attendance: QLogic and
Sandisk.
No members were terminated due to lack of attendance.
Intel requested new membership at the meeting. The T13 voting membership
during the meeting was 21 organizations (up from 20 at the last meeting).
The number of eligible voting members in attendance for establishing a
quorum was 7. 15 members were present at the meeting, thus a quorum was
present.
T13 voting membership following the meeting was 21 members.
The following individuals were in attendance:
Phil Gardner Absolute Software Mary Morgan Morgan Link
Ron Roberts Adaptec Tony Goodfellow Pacific Digital
Raymond Liu Silicon Image Curtis Stevens Pacific Digital
Sumit Puri Fujitsu Gary Laatsch Phoenix
Dan Colegrove IBM Ron Salmon Phoenix
Michael Eschmann Intel Arie Krantz Qlogic
Tim Bradshaw Iomega Bob Chang Sandisk
Andre Hedrick Linux ATA Dev Tasuku Kasebayashi Toshiba
Mark Evans Maxtor Darrin Bulik Western Digital
Pete McLean Maxtor Larry McMillan Western Digital
Nita Pan Microsoft
4 Approval of the minutes from the previous T13 plenary meeting
(e01140r0)
The minutes from the previous meeting, e01140r0, were approved unanimously.
5 Document distribution
The following documents were distributed either via hard copy, soft copy, or
both:
Agenda and document directory
Resolution to ATA/ATAPI-6 letter ballot comments (e01143r0) [McLean]
ATA/ATATPI-7 rev 0, volumes 1, 2, and 3
EDD - 2 project 1484-D (d1484r1a) [Stevens]
Comments on the proposal for selective self-test (e01147r0) [Bulik]
Proposal to reserve opcodes for Serial ATA (e01145r0) [McLean]
ATA/ATAPI Host Adapter Standard project 1510D (1510D r0c) [Goodfellow]
6 Review of previous action items
1. The Chair is instructed to issue a letter ballot for forwarding
ATA/ATAPI-6 revision 3 to NCITS for further processing. Completed - to be
covered in agenda item 7.2.1.
2. Representatives of device manufacturers are speak with their
designers regarding Larry Barras' proposal to limit leakage current on INTRQ
and be prepared to discuss this at the meeting in December. To be covered
in agenda item 7.7.7.
3. Representatives of device manufacturers are to check under what
conditions their devices set DF in the Status register to one. To be
covered in ATA/ATAPI-6 letter ballot comment resolution, agenda item 7.2.1.
4. Mark Evans is to post information on the technology transfer survey
to the T13 reflector. Completed.
7 Old business
7.1 ATA/ATAPI-5 Erratum (ANSI NCITS 340-2000 (erratum)) (e01122r1)
[McLean]
The Chair reported that the ATA/ATAPI-5 erratum has been approved by ANSI
and published.
7.2 ATA/ATAPI-6 project 1410-D
The Chair reported that the letter ballot to forward ATA/ATAPI-6 passed, 18
yes, 0 no, 0 abstain, 2 eligible members did not vote. Two of the yes votes
had comments to be resolved.
7.2.1 ATA/ATAPI-6 Letter ballot resolution (e01143r0) [McLean]
Pete McLean reviewed his recommendations for resolution of letter ballot
comments for ATA/ATAPI-6 and other minor issues that have been highlighted.
Curtis Stevens moved and Ron Roberts seconded that the recommendations for
resolution of letter ballot comments including input from the meeting be
included in the next revision of ATA/ATAPI-6 (revision 3a), and that this
revision be forwarded to NCITS for further processing.
A roll call vote was taken. The motion carried 14:0:0:7.
Company Voter Yes No Abstain Not present
Absolute Software Phil Gardner X
Adaptec Ron Roberts X
Apple X
Fujitsu X
Hitachi X
IBM Dan Colegrove X
Intel Michael Eschmann X
Iomega Tim Bradshaw X
Linux ATA Development Andre Hedrick X
LSI Logic X
Maxtor Mark Evans X
Microsoft Nita Pan X
Morgan Link Mary Morgan X
Pacific Digital Tony Goodfellow X
Phoenix Gary Laatsch X
Qlogic X
Sandisk Bob Chang X
Seagate X
ST Microelectronics X
Toshiba Tasuku Kasebayashi X
Western Digital Darrin Bulik X
7.2.2 ATA/ATAPI-6 Schedule Review
The schedule for the project as it is reflected in the following table was
reviewed. There were no changes made to the schedule at this meeting.
Schedule Item Original Prior Current
Project proposal Oct-99 Oct-99 Oct-99
Initial draft Jun-00 Jun-00 Jun-00
Proposal cut-off Aug-00 Aug-00 Aug-00
Stabilized draft Feb-01 Apr-01 Apr-01
Letter ballot Apr-01 Aug-01 Oct-01
Forward to NCITS Jun-01 Oct-01 Dec-01
7.3 EDD - 2 project 1484-D [Stevens]
7.3.1 Draft review (d1484r1a) [Stevens]
Curtis Stevens reviewed the change bars in the draft resulting from input at
the October meeting. Curtis agreed to make a new revision (rev 2) of the
document accepting the change bars and other input from the meeting.
Curtis Stevens moved and Ron Roberts seconded that revision 2 of the
document be forwarded to NCITS for further processing. The chair was given
the action item to issue a letter ballot for forwarding EDD-2.
7.4 ATA/ATAPI Host Adapter Standard project 1510D [Goodfellow]
7.4.1 Draft review (1510D r0c) [Goodfellow]
Tony Goodfellow reviewed this document which included changes based on input
at the October meeting.
During the review several issues were identified including what should be
the default values in the Base Address Registers. Tony and Mike Eschmann
said that they would take these off-line and try to reach resolutions.
In addition, Mike also took a number for a document (e01149r0) that would
describe PCI timing register data from Intel. As this develops, this may be
included as an informative annex in the standard document.
Tony agreed to take input from the meeting and construct a new revision of
the document.
7.5 ATA/ATAPI-7 project 1532D
7.5.1 Format discussion
Pete McLean, the editor, reviewed the new format that he constructed.
Because the resulting volume 1 of the new format was so small, it was agreed
that Pete would take the material that had been in volume 1 and place it in
both of the other two volumes, reducing this document to two volumes. It
was also agreed that the new volume 1 would contain the command descriptions
and that the new volume 2 would contain the description of all of the
physical and transport elements.
7.5.2 Proposal for command integrity checking (e00160r0) [McLean]
Pete reviewed his proposal for providing checking on values written to the
Command Block registers for commands. This proposal was constructed for
48-bit commands only. Tony Goodfellow and others recommended that it would
be good to have this type of protection on 28-bit commands, as well. Pete
said that he would check to see if a mechanism to do this would be possible
and still provide sufficient protection. If protection on 28-bit commands
is possible and effective, Pete will bring in a new revision of his proposal
including this feature.
7.5.3 Extended cable lengths (e00151r1) [Goodfellow]
Tony is waiting for feedback from HDD vendors that have been supplied with
controller and cable systems using extended cable lengths.
Pete McLean stated that there was concern that there is not enough control
over how others might construct extended-length cables. Curtis Stevens said
that there were already many cables being constructed today that were out of
specification, and that it would be better to have specific requirements for
longer cables in the standard.
Tony offered to provide samples to others and will bring a revised document
into the next meeting to move forward with this work.
7.5.4 Larger physical sector size (e01138r1) [Colegrove]
Dan Colegrove had nothing new to present at this meeting, though he also
said that he would distribute material on this topic from IDEMA before the
next meeting to help folks better understand the issues and what has been
discussed.
Nita Pan reported that the folks at Microsoft felt that the maximum sector
size should be 4096 bytes (eight sectors). Dan replied that this was the
general feeling of the IDEMA working group, as well.
Mike Eschmann said that he would contact the Intel Architecture Labs to see
if he could enlist their help in evaluating the impact of this type of
change, particularly in regard to performance.
7.5.5 INTRQ assertion, negation, release, pull-up (e01119r0) [Barras]
This proposal is for a specification for leakage current on the device's
driver for INTRQ or, alternately, a 6.2 Kohm pull-down resistor on the
signal at hosts that implement level sensing of this signal. Discussion on
this topic had been postponed from the previous meeting so that device folks
could speak with their designers.
Pete McLean and Mark Evans reported that Maxtor would have no problem with
either of these alternatives. Dan Colegrove said that IBM would have no
problem with either of these alternatives. Tim Bradshaw reported that Iomega
would have no problem with either of these alternatives.
Others said that they would try to have an answer by the February meeting.
7.5.6 FLUSH CACHE command modification proposal (e01126r0) [Noblitt]
Marc Noblitt had presented a proposal at the August meeting to add a DWE
(deferred write error) bit in bit 4 of the Status register for the FLUSH
CACHE EXTENDED command (as had been defined for use by the streaming
commands). He stated that the reason for this bit is so that any write
cache error that has occurred since the previous FLUSH CACHE command can be
reported to the host.
Several folks said that their devices would hang requiring a reset if a
write cache error occurred and that this was the proper response for
devices. Marc said that he would go back and check how Seagate's drives
function.
As Marc was not present at this meeting, discussion of this item was
deferred to the next meeting.
7.5.7 Extensions to device self-test (e01137r0) [Bulik]
Darrin Bulik stated at the October meeting that these extensions were
developed to quickly determine if the device had incurred handling damage,
particularly during shipment.
Darrin stated at this meeting that he had no update at this time. The group
requested that Darrin provide more information about the intent of this
proposal and clarify that implementation is device specific.
Darrin said that he would like to use SMART log page 08 for the results of
this test in his proposal.
7.5.8 Selective self-test (e01139r0) [McLean]
Pete McLean stated at the last meeting that, as devices increase in
capacity, the extended SMART self-test also increases in the time it takes
to execute a full-surface scan. This proposal describes a method to
decrease the time required for testing by defining a method to allow a
utility to specify critical areas to be scanned.
Pete stated at this meeting that he had not constructed an update as he had
received no feedback that would require changes to the document that he
presented at the October meeting. Pete then briefly reviewed his proposal.
There was discussion that it might be possible to simplify the proposal.
Pete said he thought that the capability to test selective areas of the
media, the timer function, and the capability to perform a background scan
as a secondary step were the most important features of his proposal. Pete
said that he would attempt to discover if it was possible to simplify the
proposal to focus on these most important features and report back at the
meeting in February.
The group also reviewed e01139r0, Comments on the proposal for a selective
self-test by Darrin Bulik. Pete said that he would check on the issues that
were not resolved during the discussion at the meeting and include all
accepted resolutions in the next revision of his proposal.
7.5.9 Proposal for additions to ATA/ATAPI-7 for Ultra DMA mode 6
(e01135r0) [Evans]
Mark Evans reported at the October meeting that the proposal had been posted
on the web site. He had requested that if there were any specific issues
with the proposal to communicate the issues to him via email so that they
could be resolved before this meeting.
Mark reported that no issues with the proposal had been communicated to him
since the last meeting.
Mark Evans moved and Curtis Stevens seconded that this proposal be included
in ATA/ATAPI-7.
During the discussion it was identified that this proposal changes two
values for Mode 5 (setup and hold times at the recipient), and no
justification for this change is provided in the proposal. It was also
stated that there may be other issues with the proposal not identified at
this meeting.
Mark and Curtis agreed to withdraw their motion to allow time for any issues
to be addressed before the February meeting.
Darrin Bulik stated that he would post all issues that WD had identified to
the T13 reflector in time for them to be addressed before the February
meeting.
7.5.10 Schedule review
The schedule for the project as it is reflected in the following table was
reviewed. There were no changes made to the schedule at this meeting.
Schedule Item Original Prior Current
Project proposal Aug-01 Aug-01 Aug-01
Initial draft Dec-01 Dec-01 Dec-01
Proposal cut-off Jun-02 Jun-02 Jun-02
Stabilized draft Dec-02 Dec-02 Dec-02
Letter ballot Apr-03 Apr-03 Apr-03
Forward to NCITS Jun-03 Jun-03 Jun-03
7.6 ATAPI Implementation Specification (e00150r0) [Goodfellow] (formerly
Consolidated ATAPI PACKET command set)
Tony Goodfellow had nothing new to report at this meeting but wished to
leave this item on the agenda.
7.7 Proposal document format guideline (e01129r0) [Colegrove]
Dan Colegrove is working to construct the next revision of his document and
had nothing new to present at this meeting. This format of this will be a
proposal document and a proposed new annex.
7.8 Improved error definition (Stevens)
Curtis Stevens said that issues that he had in this regard were resolved by
the clarification of the DF bit discussed earlier in the meeting that will
be included in the next revision of ATA/ATAPI-6.
7.9 Forced Unit Access [e011140r0] (Pan)
Nita Pan discussed her proposal and received much input from the group. The
general feeling was that this could be a very beneficial feature, but that
there were issues with her proposed implementation. One issue specifically
identified by Pete McLean was that there was no single bit that could be
used for all commands. The group generated several additional questions
that Nita said she would get answered, including whether this could be
implemented with new commands as opposed to a bit in the Features register
for current commands. She said that she would include this input in the
next revision of her proposal.
7.10 Unsolicited interrupts (Goodfellow)
Tony Goodfellow had nothing new to report at this meeting but wished to
leave this on the agenda.
7.11 T13 Reflector, FTP, and Web Site Setup
The general feeling of the group was that the new systems were working well.
Dan Colegrove and Ron Salmon reported that there were security, liability,
and other issues with providing capability for others to upload files. It
was agreed that we would continue with the current system where proposal and
other files are sent via email to Pete McLean and/or Dan, and they will post
the received documents to the appropriate site.
Dan said that he intended to change the FTP site so that all documents were
in a single directory with a file listing the files in the directory and
describing their content as the first file in the directory. Dan also said
that he would also provide links from the web site to both .pdf and .doc
files.
7.12 Open issues list
There are no open issues.
8 New Business
8.1 Comments on the proposal for selective self-test (e01147r0)
This document was discussed under item 7.5.8.
8.2 Reserved opcodes for Serial ATA (e01145r0) [McLean]
Pete McLean said that he had been requested by folks working on SATA to
bring this proposal reserving eight op codes for SATA to T13. There was
discussion by the group that it would be better (and like methods used
previously by T13 for this type of request) if this proposal could be
expanded to describe usage of these opcodes relative to the ATA/ATAPI
standards. It was also stated that these definitions do necessarily need be
included in a standard.
Pete said that he would ask the SATA group if they were amenable to this,
and, if so, would make a new revision of his proposal to reflect this.
8.3 ATA Domain Validation [Hedrick]
Andre stated that he thought it would be good to have a standardized method
for validation of the ATA domain. He said that he would construct a
proposal to describe this in more detail. This document will be e01148r0.
8.4 Document numbers with no documents [Colegrove]
Dan reported that he had only one document number without a document for
CY2001. This is e01142r0, Deferred Write Errors by Larry Barras. Dan said
that he would contact Larry to resolve this.
9 Liaison Reports
9.1 T10
The latest T10 liaison report from John Lohmeyer has been posted on the T13
web site as e01144r0.
9.2 SFF
Dan Colegrove reported that there were no new issues with SFF that had
impact on this committee.
9.3 IDEMA
Dan Colegrove reported that there were no new issues with IDEMA that had
impact on this committee.
10 Call for Patents
The Chair explained the patent policy. A document is available from ANSI,
"Procedures for the Development and Coordination of American National
Standards", at no charge. This document is also on the NCITS web site at
ftp://www.ncits.org/help/ansi_sdo.html. Section 1.2.11 contains the ANSI
patent policy. Amy Marasco manages patent issues for ANSI and can be
contacted at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 212-642-4954.
The Chair then called for patents and/or patent applications that may be
necessary to comply with the requirements in T13 standards, draft standards,
technical reports, or draft technical reports.
Tony Goodfellow responded that Pacific Digital had one or more patents that
would be required for implementation of ATA/ATAPI Host Adapter Standard
project 1510D. In addition, Tony said that Pacific Digital would comply
with the ANSI patent policy in regard to this project.
10.1 Convolve
The Chair reported that NCITS counsel sent a letter to Convolve on February
20, 2001 requesting them to notify NCITS if they believed they had
intellectual property claims with regard to ATA/ATAPI-6 and, if so,
requesting that Convolve agree to the ANSI patent policy. Convolve has
replied to NCITS counsel verbally that 1) A patent has issued covered by the
AAM standard, 2) Convolve will allow their technology to be covered by the
standard and will follow the ANSI patent policies - reasonable royalties and
license, 3) Convolve wants to subpoena the T13 committee.
The NCITS counsel has asked for the compliance with the policy in writing
and is negotiating the subpoena issue. Kate McMillan, director of NCITS
believes she will be the one to appear.
11 Review of Action Items
1. Pete McLean is to make a new revision of ATA/ATAPI-6 (revision 3a)
including resolution to letter ballot and other comments.
2. The Chair is instructed to forward ATA/ATAPI-6, revision 3a, to
NCITS for further processing.
3. The Chair is instructed to issue a letter ballot for forwarding EDD
- 2 project 1484D, revision 2, to NCITS for further processing.
4. Representatives of device manufacturers who have not yet responded
are to speak with their designers regarding Larry Barras' proposal to limit
leakage current on INTRQ and be prepared to discuss this at the meeting in
February.
12 Meeting Schedule
12.1 Authorization of ad hoc working groups
No ad hoc working groups were authorized.
12.2 Long term meeting schedule
The meeting dates, locations, hosts, and contacts were reviewed through
CY2003 (included below). No changes were made at this meeting.
CY 2002 Dates Location Host Contact
February 19-21, 2002 Placerville, CA Adaptec Ron Roberts
April 23-25, 2002 Longmont, CO Seagate Marc Noblitt
June 25-27, 2002 Irvine, CA Phoenix Ron Salmon
August 20-22, 2002 Longmont, CO Maxtor Pete McLean
October 22-24, 2002 TBD Pacific Digital Tony Goodfellow
December 16-18, 2002 Irvine, CA Western Digital Darrin Bulik
CY 2003 Dates Location Host Contact
February 18-20, 2003 Placerville, CA Adaptec Ron Roberts
April 22-24, 2003 Longmont, CO Seagate Marc Noblitt
June 24-26, 2003 Irvine, CA Phoenix Ron Salmon
August 19-21, 2003 Longmont, CO Maxtor Pete McLean
October 21-23, 2003 TBD Pacific Digital Tony Goodfellow
December 16-18, 2003 Las Vegas IBM Dan Colegrove
NOTE - Meetings are scheduled for three days only.
As noted above the dates of the next plenary meeting of T13 are February
19th through 21st. The meeting will be held in Placerville, CA, hosted by
Ron Roberts of Adaptec. A host meeting notice will be sent out on the
reflector and will be added to the web site.
13 Adjournment
The meeting adjourned by the Chair, Pete McLean, upon completion of all the
agenda items at 5:30 P.M. on Wednesday, December 12th, 2001.
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