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>>> Hale Landis 04/14/02 23:45 PM >>>
> In emails this weekend Pat
> seemed to be saying that T13 had
> removed/deleted some functionality
> from ATAPI DMA that would allow a
> device to indicate the number of
> ...bytes transferred
> for DMA data transfer commands.

Thanks for hearing me ... I'm sorry to say that's not quite what I meant.

I meant to say that AtapiPio, and other forms of Scsi-over-whatever that just plain 
work, rather than just mostly work, include a negotiation between the host and the 
device over precisely how many bytes to copy which way.

Jim quite rightly points out this is a T10 Sam claim that T10 has never made public, 
oops.  We need to work on that: the less inaccurate the Ansi material is, the better 
for all of us.

I know to believe that a negotiation of how many bytes to copy which way makes Scsi 
work because of my personal history of pain shipping a few Scsi-over-whatever devices 
per year for the last seven - not because I read this claim anywhere.


> question for Pat is: What did T13 remove?

AtapiDma differs from AtapiPio by denying the device the privilege of asking to copy 
an odd count of bytes.

I never meant to say who first introduced that regrettable difference.  I hear you 
tell us T13 copied it from SFF.  I neither assert not dispute that.

I hear you tell us people will ship a fix and publish it as part of or in parallel 
with SFF before T13 specifies it.  I neither assert not dispute that.

Pat LaVarre

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