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Hello Henry,

I agree with you just about IP bit. If the initialization pattern need to 
be specified by the Host, the only way to do so is by using Initialization 
pattern descriptor.

But regarding IMMED bit, the bit has been independent from the setting of 
FOV from SCSI2. I don't remember the reason, but IMMED bit is controled by 
FOV only in Mt.Fuji, MMC-2 and 3. So, if the Host set both FOV bit and 
IMMED bit to zero, the device shall recognize that the Host specifies to 
execute the format process with the device's default defect management 
options (certification, initialization pattern, primary defect list 
handling etc.), and with non-immediate.

Only when the immediate option is specified explicitly by IMMED bit, the 
device shall execute the format as the immediate prcess.


Best Regards,


Takaharu (Harry) Ai
DVD-RAM, AVC
Matsushita/Panasonic
Osaka, Japan


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>From: "Henry Gabryjelski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:29:13 -0700
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: "Shawn McFarland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Format field options defaults
>
>Thank you all for your replies.
>
>Due to the inability to determine a device's defaults through standard
>commands, coupled with the problem of the IP bit, I would like to
>suggest the following additional lines be added to the specification:
>
>A device should set the defaults for IMMED to one and IP to zero.
>A host should set the FOV bit to one and fill in the appropriate
>options.
>
>Thanks,
>.
>
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>> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:52 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Cc: Shawn McFarland
>> Subject: Re: Format field options defaults
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>> 
>> Oh sorry, I did not write my comment to your question. 
>> Because I remember that I forgot W??L H?T MM?T?ST 1? problem.
>> 
>> Defautl is vender specific and is not specified as 0. So 
>> Pioneer products has A2h for FOV=0. But I think, host should 
>> set correct option for the media type. Otherwise, you may not 
>> get your expected result. I think any programmer should have 
>> expected result to the command that he/she issued. (No, not all?)
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Keiji Katata
>> PIONEER CORP.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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