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> Kevin M
 
Can you give an example of a "hard disk emulated" "ATAPI removable" device?  I don't 
know what you mean.
 
I think I remember Win XP says a Usb or 1394 hard drive is Not "removable" ... merely 
because the media isn't removed without also removing the device.  I guess by 
definition this classification will eventually make sense to normal people (i.e. 
non-geeks), simply because Microsoft has distributed it broadly?
 
> Mac ... boot ...
 
Yes, comparatively speaking, Mac's just work.  Their GUI boots too, not just the 
command-line, because it's not as heavily copy-protected as Win XP etc.  For the Mac, 
as yet, a boot volume is a boot volume is a boot volume, except I think I remember it 
is there more often termed a "startup disk".
 
Curiously yours, thanks in advance, Pat LaVarre

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Brian A. Berg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
        Sent: Fri 9/6/2002 10:34 AM 
        To: Kevin Moore 
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        Thanks for that info.  Is this consistent with the rest of the
        industry?  Is standardizing this kind of approach the sort of
        topic that is discussed amongst BIOS vendors to decrease user
        confusion?
        
        Thanks for any perspective.
        
        Brian Berg
        
        > AMIBIOS does not have a "USB" boot setting.  We try to classify the devices
        > based on how the user would view them.  For example a USB floppy would be
        > classified as removable and a USB hard drive would be classified as a hard
        > drive.  All ATAPI removable devices will be considered removable even if
        > they are hard disk emulated.
        >
        > > -----Original Message-----
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        > > Sent:       Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:56 PM
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        > > Subject:    Re: [t13] PC boot question...
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        > >
        > > Should the BIOS boot parameter setting for booting from an external
        > > device be "removable" or has a new "USB" boot setting been added to
        > > recent BIOSs?
        > >
        > > (These are not "private" messages as Hale requested, but this
        > > info is likely of general interest.)
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        > >
        > > > Yes, most award BIOS's of recent design allow you to boot from an
        > > external
        > > > USB 1.1 HDD or CD-ROM (as long as they comply to the bulk-only USB mass
        > > > storage specification (most modern USB MS devices do)).
        > > >
        > > > -----Original Message-----
        > > > From: Hale Landis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
        > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:51 AM
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        > > > Subject: [t13] PC boot question...
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        > > > (Please answer with a private email to me.)
        > > >
        > > > Anyone seen a PC BIOS that is able to boot from an external USB or
        > > > 1394 hard disk or CD device?
        > > >
        > > > *** Hale Landis *** www.ata-atapi.com ***
        

         

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