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Glenn D:

> I think we will someday start to see our English
> departments teach courses on how to write for the
> internet.  They will be interesting.

These have not already begun?

> You have posted outside your cubicle an article on
> Extreme Programming.  Ive wanted to discuss this
> with you for some time now.

Sorry.

> Are you a fan of this technique?  I find it
> intriguing.

I find it intriguing.  I don't have much experience of it.  In my work of this moment, 
I am consciously trying to write nothing but what I know I need, and then live with 
the cost of change.

> I especially like the test-as-you-go idea, as that
> is the way I program,

In Forth, yes.  How about in C?

> I wonder if formally written test suites are really
> adequate.

Non-trivial to make them so, I think.

> No playing with the software?  How do you do these
> tests at the hardware/firmware interface?

I'd like to see someone discuss how to use Extreme Programming with incompletely 
specified hardware ... I'm thinking that's a little bit like trying XP with an 
unreliable compiler.

> The strong customer interaction is also great.

Yes.

> I think it works in well with your idea that the
> only software documentation that makes sense
> (besides a user manual) is the source code itself.

Yes, that idea is a cost of change argument: almost nobody working for pay actually 
chooses to keep the comments up to date.

> I, of course, automatically suspect any technique
> that feels it must use a current buzzword (XP) to
> promote itself,

And I dislike the jargon collision with Win "XP".

> and find some of the rules too inflexible, but I'm
> wondering what your thoughts are.

I'd like to meet & talk.

> Have you had experience with it?

No.

> One warning sign--Ed Yourdon has come out in favor
> of it--egad.

Ouch.

> ...

Thanks for talking, Pat LaVarre

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