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Anyone care to explain this email? I removed the large PPT attachment. Hale > ==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== > >Subject: Voting of ATA/ATAPI-7 AV command at Next T-13 meeting > >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:43:02 +0900 > >From: "Fuchigami, Shoji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Dear all; > > New motion " to remove the Time Limited Read/Write Feature Set from > the ATA/ATAPI-7 draft" was proposed at last T-13 meeting. We already > send e-mail which is sent last April. IDEMA-JAPAN's consensus favor > removing Time Limited Command from ATA/ATAPI-7. The reason is to > reject confusions. (Please refer attached mail and file.) (Time > Limited Read/Write Command = AV Lite) > > IDEMA-JAPAN Consumer HDD committee discuss and summarize our opinion. > (See attached file Page 18) " to remove the Time Limited Read/Write > Feature Set from the ATA/ATAPI-7 draft" > Favor ; Set company : 8 HDD company : 5 > Against ; Set company : 0 HDD company : 1 > > Voting Member; > Toshiba, Hitachi, JVC, Matsushita, Sanyo, SONY, Pioneer,Orion > Maxtor Japan, Seagate Japan, Western Digital Japan, IBM Japan, > Fujitsu, > > We wish you to understand our requirement. > If you receive letter ballot from T-13 (see below), please answer > "YES". > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------- > INCITS SUBGROUP LETTER BALLOT > > Subject: The Time Limited Read/Write > > Statement: At the last T13 meeting it was moved that the approval of > the incorporation of the Time Limited Read/Write Feature Set (AV > Lite) in to ATA/ATAPI-7 be repealed. The effect of this motion would > be to remove the Time Limited Read/Write Feature Set from the > ATA/ATAPI-7 draft. Copies of the documents are available at > http://www.t13.org. > > Question: Do you approve the repeal of the incorporation of the Time > Limited Read/Write Feature Set > ATA/ATAPI-7? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------- > > Regards, Sho Fuchigami > > > IDEMA-JAPAN Consumer-HDD committee > Shoji Fuchigami Chairman , SONY > Ryousuke Shimizu Co-chairman , Matsushita > Seiji Kawagoe Co-chairman ,Toshiba > > > Regards, Sho > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fuchigami, Shoji > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 11:01 PM > Subject: Voting of ATA/ATAPI-7 AV command at Next T-13 meeting > > > Dear all; > > We are representative of IDEMA-JAPAN Consumer HDD committee. > I send this e-mail to give us agreement and vote assent our movement > at next T-13 meeting. > > Original AV streaming feature set was discussed at ATA/ATAPI-7. But > similar AV command "AV-Lite" was proposed by Seagate. IDEMA-JAPAN > make assessment of comparison between AV streaming feature set and > AV-Lite at last T-13 meeting. (See below URL , That's assessment > results presentation. ) > > http://www.t13.org/docs2003/e03108r0.pdf > > Summary; > *All functions of AV-Lite are included in Streaming Feature Set. > *AV-Lite cannot set independent CCTLs for Read and Write. > - Streaming Feature Set can 1) Independent CCTLs with each stream ID > 2) Definition of CCTL is clear > $B!!!!!!!!(JLimited flexibility in handling multiple AV stream > -When handling multiple streams with different data transfer rates, > Set Features Command must be issued every time CCTL changes. > Streaming Feature Set can handle multiple streams effectively by > using Stream ID. *AV Lite lacks features which are important in > handling both > AV stream and PC Data simultaneously. > -e.g.) Handle Streaming Error Bit$B"*(JThis function increases the > possibility of data recovery by resuming suspended ERP. AV-Lite does > not support this function. > > > Conclusions; > Only AV Stream command set should be a standard, > with AV Lite removed > > Reasons; > $B!!!!(J1) AV Lite proposed by Seagate does not work adequately to > AV applications from now. > $B!!!!(J2) The presence of two kinds of AV cmd cause negative > effects. > - Cause confusion in the CE market with compatibility matter of > software of AV set. > - Low functional AV Lite cannot be used for inheritable recorder > software$B!G(Js command in AV set using next > generation HDD, > and cannot realize compatibility between generations. > - The simplicity of AV-Lite seems to make HDD firmware > development > easier. However, its function is too limited to > satisfy increasing > complexity of AV CE. Thus, it soon forces HDD > Manufacturers to > make extra efforts to implement AV Stream command > set, too. > $B!!!!!!!!(J - For the above reasons, AV Lite should not be > standardized. > $B!!!!!!!!!!(J Basics: Only one kind command should be > standardized. > > > We wish you to understand our requirement and vote assent "Only AV > Stream command set should be a standard, with AV Lite removed" at > next T-13 meeting. > > Regards, Sho Fuchigami > > > IDEMA-JAPAN Consumer-HDD committee > Shoji Fuchigami Chairman , SONY > Ryousuke Shimizu Co-chairman , Matsushita > Seiji Kawagoe Co-chairman ,Toshiba > > > ==================================================== > Shoji Fuchigami, Eng.Dr . > Sony Corporation, Home Network Company > NB Department, Product Design Section 2 > Optical Storage Division > Home Storage Company > Shinagawa INTERCITY C > 2-15-3 Konan Minato-ku, Tokyo, 108-6201 Japan > TEL:+81-3-5769-5445 > E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ==================================================== > > ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== *** Hale Landis *** www.ata-atapi.com ***
