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I am officially requesting a correction to the minutes of the October 2004
T13 Plenary Meeting #49.

The official minutes were published October 27, 2004 as 2004 document
'e04152r1'.
      http://t13.org/docs2004/e04152r1-October_Plenary_Minutes.pdf

My objection is that certain statements I made regarding the interaction of
T13 with the SATA-IO organization were not recorded (anywhere) in the
official minutes.

At the December plenary meeting, I will officially request that the minutes
of the meeting
be ammended to reflect this.

I am supplying suggested text for inclusion in the revised minutes.

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(section 7.4.1 SCT BIST Proposal)
"There was heated discussion about whether this proposal would add data
to a log page reserved for SATA. Curtis indicated that this proposes a new
T13
log page which contains a copy of a log page defined in SATA-II extensions,
with an additional counter."

"Jim Hatfield objected, indicating that this proposal appears to be
(a) defining a new feature for serial-only ATA devices (with the new log
page) and
(b) this new log page effectively would set the T13 specification as a
superset of the SATA-II
Extensions document, creating devices that comply with ATA/ATAPI-8 but not
with SATA-II Extensions, and
(c) that the  SATA-IO organization has juristiction over new SATA-specific
behavior."

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(section 8.4 Device Initiated Power Management)

"Jim Hatfield objected, indicating that this proposal appears to be
(a) an attempt to re-document (in a T13 document) some IDENTIFY bits that
are officially
"Reserved for Serial ATA", and  (b) those bits are defined in the SATA-II
Extensions documents, and
 (c) that the  SATA-IO organization has juristiction over new SATA-specific
behavior."

"Jim Hatfield referenced a letter from SATA-IO to T13 regarding copyright
licenses indicating
that SATA-IO would not be granting a copyright release to T13 for the
SATA-II
Extensions documents.  In addition, stated that this proposal should be
brought to SATA-IO
for discussion before bringing it to T13."

"Various T13 members discussed an idea that since the SATA-II Extensions
have been published in a public place, that the copyright law allows
"concepts" to be freely
brought into T13 as long as the exact "words, pictures or diagrams" are not
copied.
Jim objected to this interpretation."
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Thank You !!!
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Jim Hatfield
ATA Interface Firmware & T13 (ATA/ATAPI) Standards Representative
Seagate Technology LLC
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