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The topic did come up at the meeting, and I took an action item to clarify
this issue.
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You are correct in that IDENTIFY does not indicate whether or not selective
self-test
and conveyance self-tests are supported.

This indication is, instead, found in the results passed back to the host
from
the SMART READ DATA command.

(reference ATA/ATAPI-7, rev 4b, volume 1)
> http://t13.org/docs2004/d1532v1r4b-ATA-ATAPI-7.pdf

Please refer to Table 49 - Device SMART data structure
      word 367 - offline data collection capability

Refer to section 6.54.5.12 Off-line data collection capabilities

      - Bit 5 (conveyance self-test implemented bit) - If this bit is
cleared to zero, the device does not implement
      the Conveyance self-test routines. If this bit is set to one, the
device implements the Conveyance selftest
      routines.

      - Bit 6 (Selective self-test implemented bit) - If this bit is
cleared to zero, the device does not implement the
      Selective self-test routine. If this bit is set to one, the device
implements the Selective self-test routine.
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Since we already report the data you desire, I would (personally) not favor
inventing
bits in IDENTIFY, but would favor better documentation in DCO of where to
find the
associated indicators.

Thank You !!!
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   Hi Dan and Jim,

   Did you cover this question in the last week's T13 meeting? I would like
   to know the result from the discussion.

   Regards,
   Joseph
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         From: Joseph Chen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
         Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:33 PM
         To: [email protected]
         Subject: DCO Questions

         Hi,

         In the ATA-7 DCO command it states: "If a DEVICE CONFIGURATION SET
         command has been issued reducing the capabilities, the response to
         an IDENTIFY DEVICE or IDENTIFY PACKET DEVICE command will reflect
         the reduced set of capabilities, while the DEVICE CONFIGURATION
         IDENTIFY command will reflect the entire set of selectable
         capabilities." (section 6.10.3.8 of v1)

         Among the various DCO setting I would like to know how to identify
         the setting of word 7 bit 12, Reporting support for SMART
         Selective self-test is allowed, and word 7 bit 13, Reporting
         support for Conveyance self-test is allowed. I couldn't find the
         support bits in the Identify command.

         If they are not exist, I propose an addition to the ATA-8 spec to
         add two bits in the Identify command to show if these DCO features
         are supported.

         Regards,
         Joseph




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