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The issue is that to flag a SATA port as an external/internal port
solely is SATA controller hardware, plus BIOS function. But, the only
open spec for SATA controller is AHCI, and not all SATA controller
chipset uses AHCI spec. On the other hand, SATA protocol spec is a well
accepted spec by the industry, but there is no place for this. For this
reason, Microsoft has submitted a white paper/proposal to SATA-IO six
months ago. But, due to the lack of interests at that time, the proposal
has been put on the back seat. Now, I have a system with an external
SATA port on the back panel and an external 250GB SATA HDD. As a user,
I'm experiencing all issues that I talked about at the beginning of this
thread. Again, the industry as a whole needs to address them now. Or the
usage of external SATA device(HDD)will be very limited. 

Thanks,

Frank  

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From: Dees, Brian M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:46 AM
To: Frank Shu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [t13] What's the difference of eSATA Hard drive and normal
SATA-II hard drive?

There are standard SATA host controller interfaces available today which
have the capability of reporting different port capabilities/limitations
(external/internal, hot pluggability, etc...).  With that understood, it
should be rather straightforward to understand (through SW) what
capabilities are available on a port which a device in question is
connected to.  

Example - AHCI (http://www.intel.com/technology/serialata/ahci.htm)

Regards,
Brian Dees


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Some of the issues do exist today, but eSATA HDD can just make them even
bigger(like security). Some of issues are controlled by OS today, for
instance, you can not boot from a USB device. But, It will be absolutely
unacceptable if we can't boot from a (e)SATA HDD since there is no
standard way to tell which port is a internal or external SATA port on a
SATA controller chip today in the spec.

Frank Shu
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SATA-II hard drive?

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Frank Shu said:
> Furthermore, eSATA device, especially eSATA hard drive, also introducs
> issues like data security, boot/non-boot, authentication and
licensing.
> The industry as a whole needs to address those issues before eSATA
device
> can be very useful.

Why is an external SATA (aka eSATA?) any different than an external USB
or
1394 hard disk drive?

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Hale Landis -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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