also, i have seen buzz in the underground business about people
hireing real people (like outsourcing companies) which pays 1$ per
1000 CAPTCHA image the person breaks.

and the whole idea behind using image/audio challange fails appart.

thanks,
-bipin

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 7:58 PM, sarose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Freely available CAPTCHA libraries are limited in certain pattern even
> they go for randomization, distortion and clutter to confuse OCR. All
> these stealth techniques have  failed miserably. Recently Gmail, MSN
> live, Yahoo!  CAPTCHA got failed  [1] with highest success rate ever
> recorded. One of the test shows that MSN Live!  failed with 92% of the
> time..[2] There are many proof of concept. Breaking CAPTCHA is easier
> and its not a right means to protect the automated attacks. Follow the
> suggestion the artcile [2]  has presented. Choose the right library
> having the lesser failure rate in producing breakable code.
>
> Explore in details here: http://www.cs.sfu.ca/~mori/research/gimpy/
>
>
> --
> Sarose
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captcha
> [2] http://www.cs.sfu.ca/~mori/research/gimpy/
>
> On May 11, 10:53 pm, acpmasquerade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Very easy,
> > use any captcha service providers or any other else created on your
> > own using GDLibrary in PHP
> >
> > One of the most famous Captcha service providers is 
> > recaptcha.nethttp://recaptcha.net/plugins/php/
> >
> > And some more arewww.PHPCaptcha.orgwww.captchacreator.com
>
> >
> > But I will suggest you a very simple one here. You are left to discuss
> > on security issues in this type.
> > Steps:
> > a) First select a random number/character/symbols, etc whatever you
> > think you should use in you captcha
> > b) Use a session variable to store the sequence you have generated
> > c) Use GDLibrary extension of PHP to generate an image out of the text
> > you have generated
> > d) Display the image somewhere and read a text input
> > e) When the form is submitted, match the input with the session
> > variable you had stored in step 'b'.
> >
> > This is a simple method how to stop spams.
> >
> > However you can do another trick too, if you do not have a proper
> > knowledge in GD
> > a) Randomize number. b) have 0-9 digits' images. c)Break the
> > characters into digits and display the image sequences to build an
> > image of number. But make sure that the names of images are some
> > encrypted strings so that pattern of the next digit cannot be guessed.
> > Otherwise robots just break the code and input what you are
> > expecting.
> >
> > For more you can continue the discussion
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>



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